2008/10/8 Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Internet. The router is
the only computer
2008/10/9 Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Now I'm confused. Firstly, I certainly don't expect to plug the HOT modem into
the ADSL plug. As I already wrote (see quote above), I thought I could plug
the HOT modem into one of the ethernet ports. I may be missing something, but
I don't
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Now I'm confused. Firstly, I certainly don't expect to plug the HOT modem into
the ADSL plug. As I already wrote (see quote above), I thought I could plug
the HOT modem into one of the ethernet ports. I may be missing something,
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 09:23:23AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I have lots of problems with Hot disconnecting and very high latency.
Hot blames Nezeq Beinleimi, Nezek blames Hot. I personally believe
that Nezeq is to blame for the latency, but Hot is to blame for the
_hours_ of downtime every
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
(which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
normal IP-over-Ethernet to
Shlomo Solomon wrote:
My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to HOT. I
would just have to unplug the ADSL line and plug the HOT modem into one of
the ethernet ports on the router. Am I correct?
well if you want to still use the router as a router, I'd think that
On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
HOT. I
would just have to unplug the ADSL line and plug the HOT modem into one
of the ethernet ports on the router. Am I
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
HOT. I
would just have to unplug the ADSL
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:47:39AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
OK - so assuming I can't use the router I bought fom Bezeq after moving to
HOT, can anyone say if they've had any Linux experience (good or bad) using
the cheap routers sold by www.ivory.co.il?
The two models they have are:
1 -
On Friday 10 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
The usual routers only have one ethernet port on the LAN side, not 4.
It is connected to an internal 5 port hub, so you get 4 LAN ports to
plug things into, but the router part only sees one port.
OK - so assuming I can't use the router I
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:20:22PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
On Thursday 09 October 2008, shimi wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
My assumption is that I could still use the same router after moving to
HOT. I
would just have to unplug the ADSL line and
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:41:48PM +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
(which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
normal IP-over-Ethernet to connect to the Internet (with somewhat lower
MTU).
You are a very
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Do remember that unlike PPTP/L2TP, as far as my firewall is concerned
(which connects directly over Ethernet to the HOT modem), I'm using
normal IP-over-Ethernet to connect to the Internet (with somewhat lower
MTU).
Since in my case (still
. Their infrastructure might be better, but
when it is untreated it is much more unreliable. See one example
http://www.warning.org.il and
http://www.tluna.co.il/companies/company.asp?CompanyID=128
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I'm thinking of moving from ADSL
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
If you ISP supports it (Barak does) you can use DHCP instead of
L2TP/PPTP.
In this case, you router no longer needs to do anything (beyond NAT)
Thanks, but maybe my question wasn't clear enough. In the past, I did pptp and
NAT on my Linux box
Since you have a router, you shouldn't have any problem connecting your
network. Just configure your router.
I'm using HOT cables + netvision and it works fine.
Eran
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
If
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
As for the phone deal, it's ok, but there are better and cheaper deals
depending on what call quality you want, and where you want to call. To
replace a BEZEQ line, it's a good deal and does not use their
infrastructure.
Thanks for the
On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is
hapening is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a
pptp or more likely l2tp tunnel is IMHO worth it, although if you are at
the edge of
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:43:55AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
easier to manage and use /etc/hosts), I added the MAC addresses of all
machines to the reserved IP address list and specified what IP to give
each. This gives me 2 advantages:
1 - constant IPs on the network
2 - If needed, I can
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:03:25AM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
As for reliability, service and speed, the best thing to do is to call
HOT and ask for their business internet sales office. They offer higher
speeds, better reliabilty and they will come and fix problems a lot better
and a
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:20:58AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Thanks, but maybe my question wasn't clear enough. In the past, I did pptp and
NAT on my Linux box and shared my internet connection over the entire
network. Since I bought an ADSL router from Bezek, everything is
literaly plug
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 21:36 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is
hapening
is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a pptp or
more likely l2tp
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 11:03 +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
First of all, you do not want to use DHCP. The actual name of what is hapening
is called MPLS and it to be blunt sucks. The extra overhead of a pptp or
more likely l2tp tunnel is IMHO worth it, although if you are at the edge
of
I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Internet. The router is
the only computer connected and all my Linux boxes (and my kids
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 05:41 +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
I'm thinking of moving from ADSL to HOT (Cable). I wanted to know 2 things:
1 - Since today I have an ADSL router (bought from Bezek), I no longer use
pptp, NAT or any other Linux tools to connect to the Internet. The router
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