Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Peter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Ira Abramov wrote: c) they will emulate it, makes sense, but where did you read that? and hope to better it in 3-5 years (assuming it will stand still ?) no, they said they will phase out the OLD shell within 5 years. The quote said that they will have a shell that

Re: article: Linux makes its first(?) steps into schools in Israel

2005-06-10 Thread Peter
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Ira Abramov wrote: Only pity the reporter once more refers to the FOSS community as fanatics that believe MS should be obliterated. so sad and untrue, but moreover it's bad for our cause. Obliterated ? No way. We want to *convert* them to the one true GNU. ALL of them.

Re: LaTeX: Hebrew and Split environment

2005-06-10 Thread avraham
--XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:01:21PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: is it possible to use hebrew and the split environment in the same article? I tried doing it and got the

Thanks

2005-06-10 Thread avraham
Hi Tzafrir, 1-Transition to sarge 1.1-Thanks for the answer. I do intend to switch to sarge as soon as possible. But as I have two or three projects in the middle + my slowness + I am talking about two boxes (at home and at work) I'd better be prepared for a transition period.

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:44:50AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: There is only one response to their statement, which is to remind everyone what happend the LAST time M$ tried to do a Un*x like shell: Obviously you have never used Micrsoft's Services for UNIX (free download). It includes a

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 10:44:50AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: There is only one response to their statement, which is to remind everyone what happend the LAST time M$ tried to do a Un*x like shell: Obviously you have never used Micrsoft's Services for UNIX

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:32:26PM +0300, Peter wrote: Con you log in more that twice simultaneous sessions, or do you have to buy extra licenses for that ? ;-) Sure, you can set the limit. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice:

Re: Debian Sarge launch party

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
On 6/7/05, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friday night, Tel Aviv's old harbour, a place called Shalvata. 21:00 sound all right for everyone? Drop a line if you intend to come. if we're over 10 it would mean reserving thetables in advance. Quoting Lior Kesos, from the post

Re: Thanks

2005-06-10 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
\begin{otherlanguage}{hebrew}, to start writing in Hebrew, which surprized me. I had understood that the language first listed as option in the babel package (in that case Hebrew) is the default one. Am I again relying on obsolete documentation. The *last* listed language is the

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oron Peled, from the post of Fri, 10 Jun: Another relevant info that was presented was that a poll of the attendees (sys-admins on large installations) concluded that Windows-NT was very lacking in CLI facilities for serious use at enterprise environment. Another anecdote I can add,

Re: article: Linux makes its first(?) steps into schools in Israel

2005-06-10 Thread Adir Abraham
I can tell you personally that this is not the first project in schools in Israel. Very few schools did that (I was involved with one of them, 2 years ago), and it was very successful. Hopefully now when it's published and has a PR, it will be more widespreaded. -- Adir Abraham [EMAIL

Re: article: Linux makes its first(?) steps into schools in Israel

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Adir Abraham, from the post of Fri, 10 Jun: I can tell you personally that this is not the first project in schools in Israel. Very few schools did that (I was involved with one of them, 2 years ago), and it was very successful. Hopefully now when it's published and has a PR, it

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Geoffrey S. Mendelson, from the post of Fri, 10 Jun: note It really feels weird defending Microsoft on a Linux list. :-) if on the rare occasion they do take the right steps, they should be encouraged I think. plus, for IT people on this list that need to interoperate with MS machines,

Re: slashdot: m$ praises unix and linux shell clis and prepares to emulate them

2005-06-10 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:05:30PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: MS people were really puzzled (CLI must be an old art that should die when people get accustomed to the modern GUI world, isn't it?) They took notice and said W2K would be a different story... Yeh, sure. Well, yet another defendant

keyboard problems following kernel upgrade

2005-06-10 Thread Amit Aronovitch
Hi, Lately, ever since I upgraded my kernel (both old and new are stock debian-pure64 version 2.6.11) I've been experiencing keyboard problems. The keyboard always works fine in the bootloader menu (grub), and also no problems when I boot another kernel (e.g. 2.6.8 amd64). However when

Re: Accessing eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router/Modem

2005-06-10 Thread Peter
I think that the last posting on this thread, the one that said that 'the b-focus was manufactured by a third party company in the far east' is lame as a conclusion. I sshd into the modem again and I found: # grep Bezeq etc/* versions:BOARD=B312p.Bezeq So the board was manufactured

typo...

2005-06-10 Thread Amit Aronovitch
Amit Aronovitch wrote: dmesg output: - The one I got after a bad boot (using ssh from other maching): http://www.tau.ac.il/~kineret/amit/dmesg_bad.out For comparison here's one after a good: http://www.tau.ac.il/~kinetet/amit/dmesg.out last one should be:

Re: LaTeX: Hebrew and Split environment

2005-06-10 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:22:01 +0300 Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:01:21PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: is it possible to use hebrew and the split environment in the same article? I tried doing it and got the following error: ! Package amsmath Error:

ANN: Security-IL Mailing List

2005-06-10 Thread Shlomi Fish
There's a new mailing list which was established specifically for discussing security-related topics: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/security-il/ Regards, Shlomi Fish - Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: