On Thu, Jun 30, 2005, Omer Zak wrote about MF vs. LAMP - orthogonal to closed
vs. Free (was: Re: Off topic - open vs. closed sources Re: compiling expect
sources or easy to use c++ engine?):
Nowadays, IBM is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) supporters of
Linux developments
Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
but its worth noting that if you will act as you act (espcially at your age) you will be treated as a less
then progessional person. more so, you give other open source
advocates like me bad reputation
Nzer,
I stayed out of the argument up till now, because I really
Nadav Har'El wrote:
Actually, sadly, he almost convinced me. Indeed, imagine a market where you
can sell your software to 100 installation, for a price of $100,000 each
(just making numbers up). That's all great, but how do you get more income
after that? Most companies like to get more money
Hello,
I need to compile expect source. (The main goal here is to hide the source from the customer not improve performance or anything of the sort)
This is vital because after having a system based on expect (which can be read natively) mysql (which support generate ddl) and php we figured we
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:24:23AM -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
Hello,
I need to compile expect source. (The main goal here is to hide the source
from the customer not improve performance or anything of the sort)
This is vital because after having a system based on expect (which can be
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 10:24, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
The main goal here is to hide the source from the customer not improve
performance or anything of the sort
1. Binarization does not give you any protection against an attacker
only the self-illusion you are protected at the price of
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I use redhat and also cygwin and AIX but i don't understand or maybe i wasn't
clear enough
I have expect program (xxx.exp) and expect and all the tools.
the problem is that since the
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Dear Oron,
While I do appriciate the buisness advice, I prefer to receive buisness advice
from paid consultants who know what I am doing. Giving me a advice without
knowing what i am
Nzer Zaidenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need to know if there is a way to compile expect source or if it is
impossible, do you know of any compilable alternative?
I don't know of a way to compile expect sources (look at tcl docs?),
but how big an effort will it be to rewrite the code in C
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote about Re: compiling expect sources
or easy to use c++ engine?:
the problem is that since the xxx.exp is script (readable to all) all the
code is provided to the customer.
we don't want that so i want to either rewrite it with C++ engine (similar
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libexpect was exactly what I needed. thank you.
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nzer Zaidenberg writes:
I need to know if there is a way to compile expect source or if it is
there are tcl obfuscation tools - out there - and there are tcl
compilers and installers - just google for them the tcl fanatics already
thought of that :-)
Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote about Re: compiling expect sources or
easy to use c++ engine
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 13:19, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
While I do appriciate the buisness advice, ...
...we operate in financial segements with banks and mainframes.
As someone who used Rexx on a mainframe circa 1984 (CMS/3 IIRC)
I'll try to ignore your patronizing attitude and boasting about
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Oron Peled wrote about Re: Off topic - open vs. closed
sources Re: compiling expect sources or easy to use c++ engine?:
Good. Than the binary/source issue (as a protection measure) is moot.
...
Not like it? On the contrary, you describe an industry that use mostly
custom
On Wednesday, 29 בJune 2005 18:44, Nadav Har'El wrote:
In this situation, if his software was open source - even in the
sense that the source was available to the customer - the customer
could have hired someone to improve the software instead of buying a
new version - and that scares a
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 18:44 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005, Oron Peled wrote about Re: Off topic - open vs. closed
sources Re: compiling expect sources or easy to use c++ engine?:
Good. Than the binary/source issue (as a protection measure) is moot.
...
Not like
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Oron Peled wrote:
Now does your company fit the bill?
There are a lot of people who develop based on free software and then
try to 'lock' the product. You cannot do that. The only option is to
make it complex enough that anybody wanting to modify or develop it will
Re: Off topic - open vs. closed
sources Re: compiling expect sources or easy to use c++ engine?:
Good. Than the binary/source issue (as a protection measure) is moot.
...
Not like it? On the contrary, you describe an industry that use mostly
custom made solution (no shrink wrap CompUSA type
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
the problem is that since the xxx.exp is script (readable to all) all the code
is provided to the customer.
we don't want that so i want to either rewrite it with C++ engine (similar to
expect) or
compile xxx.exp to xxx.a.out (make the source
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 19:17, Omer Zak wrote:
This looks to me like Oron is not recognizing the full value of his
services.
Bzzzt, Omer you mixed me up withNzer Zaidenberg to whom me (and
Nadav) replied in this thread.
Other than that, what you wrote seem very valid to me.
Bye,
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On Wednesday 29 June 2005 18:44, Nadav Har'El wrote:
... if customers are allowed to pay only for the features and fixes
they really need. Instead, you want to sell new versions of the
entire software, for a lot of money.
True. FOSS allows customers to pay for what they really need instead
of
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 23:34 +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 19:17, Omer Zak wrote:
This looks to me like Oron is not recognizing the full value of his
services.
Bzzzt, Omer you mixed me up with Nzer Zaidenberg to whom me (and
Nadav) replied in this thread.
I stand
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 13:14 -0700, Nzer Zaidenberg wrote:
thanks for the support ;-) though it seems like i started a troll.
Now it does feel to me like a troll.
However, I have some left-over food for you trolls, welcome to it.
Yes I mennt that if you give the source you cannot charge when
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