Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-06 Thread Nick Andrews
Now, if I could only remember where I stashed that time machine... On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 7:20 AM Robert G. Schaffrath < robert.schaffr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Poly Paks, Meshna, et al. By 1979 used tubes were $4/each and NOS were > $5/each at Meshna. I bought a few NOS that I still have but

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-06 Thread Toby Thain
On 2022-05-06 8:39 p.m., Charles MacDonald wrote: On 2022-05-06 08:20, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: Poly Paks, Meshna, et al. By 1979 used tubes were $4/each and NOS were $5/each at Meshna. I bought a few NOS that I still have but looking back, yes I wish I had bought more. But, honestly, what

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-06 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2022-05-06 08:20, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: Poly Paks, Meshna, et al. By 1979 used tubes were $4/each and NOS were $5/each at Meshna. I bought a few NOS that I still have but looking back, yes I wish I had bought more. But, honestly, what to do with all of them back then? They were still

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-04 Thread Michail Wilson
Strangely, I didn’t even get the notification. I would have bought them. Actually, I didn’t know until I received the response from gregebert. Wonder why several of the googlegroups emails didn’t even make it. ☹ Michail From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of gregebert Sent:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each

2022-05-04 Thread Nicholas Stock
Aren't we all :) On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 4:01 PM gregebert wrote: > I'm still kicking myself for not buying a bunch of these from PolyPaks > back in the 1970's > > On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:35:25 PM UTC-7 Pramanicin wrote: > >> Tubes have sold. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nick >> >> On Wed, May

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-05-12 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Hi, Peter, Unfortunately I do not think I would be able to adapt the ZM1350 to the B5971 with a custom adapter board, and the reason is due to the differing resistor requirements between the two for their respective pin sets - it would require a not insignificant adjustment to the main board to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-29 Thread Peter Doroba
That's a good point. I never noticed that the center vertical segment was one piece. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 11:42:03 PM UTC-4 Richard Scales wrote: > The only problem in doing that - as far as I can tell - is that the B5971 > does not have the same number of segments, I believe that

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Michail Wilson
, 2021 8:42 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest The only problem in doing that - as far as I can tell - is that the B5971 does not have the same number of segments, I believe that the centre vertical segment is one long piece from top to bottom as opposed

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Richard Scales
The only problem in doing that - as far as I can tell - is that the B5971 does not have the same number of segments, I believe that the centre vertical segment is one long piece from top to bottom as opposed to being made up of two parts. Whilst it may be possible to handle the switching of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Peter Doroba
I'm absolutely still interested in the DUSTOFF board. I'm also interested in the ZM1350 board however I don't have any tubes and they seem very hard to obtain. I do have a set of B5971 tubes. Is it possible to adapt the ZM1350 board to B5971? I guess what I'm asking is if it's a one piece

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Whew! Sorry again everyone. Been out of the country *again*, and will be leaving to Australia in early June for a couple months. Work has been crazy this year. That said... here are updates on all my existing and future projects. . *EXISTING PROJECTS* *If your name is not listed below and you're

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Jackson
Mahdi, I would be interested in a second DUSTOFF board for my daughter down the street. I could send her simple greetings and updates. Jon On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:33 AM Peter Doroba wrote: > Knock, knock. LOL > > > On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:40:55 AM UTC-5 Peter Doroba wrote: > >> No

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-04-28 Thread Peter Doroba
Knock, knock. LOL On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:40:55 AM UTC-5 Peter Doroba wrote: > No worries. Thanks! > > Pete > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 1:36:06 AM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: > >> Hi, Peter (and Bill and others), >> >> I owe you all some information, which I will get to this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-03-01 Thread Peter Doroba
No worries. Thanks! Pete On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 1:36:06 AM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: > Hi, Peter (and Bill and others), > > I owe you all some information, which I will get to this weekend. I > apologize - I have been out of country for work related reasons, and have > been

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-02-24 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Hi, Peter (and Bill and others), I owe you all some information, which I will get to this weekend. I apologize - I have been out of country for work related reasons, and have been away from my workstation, for much of the past few months. Finally, I have returned home. Be in touch soon. Mahdi

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2021-02-17 Thread Peter Doroba
Any updates? On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 4:36:57 AM UTC-5 wayneco wrote: > I’m down for two, more if it can be a generic data receiver and display, I > have been wanting something like that, Burroughs nixie based for a long, > long time. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 17, 2020, at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread Richard Scales
I have used the B-7971 smart sockets to make clocks which are easy to build and easy to program. I've used similar technology with other multi segment displays and have developed a controller board to drive them to make a very effective clock. No need for a dedicated board for the tubes (just six

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I wish the B7971 kits that pop up from time to time were not so expensive. I have enough of the very expensive parts (the tubes) but I missed out on the boards years ago. I do not fire up my old MM5311 based clock much, built in 1979/1980, as the multiplexing whine bothers me now. The six tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread gregebert
Despite it's "ugliness", the 7971 does support alphanumeric characters whereas the 568m does not. That, along with their massive size, is why I made a clock out of them a few years ago, thankfully when those tubes were cheaper. As far as beauty is concerned though, the 568m tubes are stellar.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread gregebert
Despite it's "ugliness", the 7971 does support alphanumeric characters whereas the 568m does not. That, along with their massive size, is why I made a clock out of them a few years ago, thankfully when those tubes were cheaper. As far as beauty is concerned though, the 568m tubes are stellar.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-26 Thread Yohan Park
If I had to spend $150 on a single tube I'd choose the R|Z568M from Dalibor. Way more aesthetically pleasing than these B7971 tubes in my opinion. On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 6:10:49 PM UTC+1 Paul Andrews wrote: > That is a very nice clock. If only I had that kind of disposable income. I >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-25 Thread Paul Andrews
That is a very nice clock. If only I had that kind of disposable income. I probably would have if I didn't fritter it away on smaller things. On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:37:20 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote: > > > Antenna MOD:) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 5, 2020, at 10:16, Michail

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-24 Thread Bill Notfaded
I hope somone here bought them at least? Bill On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 7:51 AM Nicholas Stock wrote: > Damn! Someone didn't do their research (or just wanted to be generous?). > > Anyone snag those here? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 22, 2021, at 02:40, fax_awd wrote: > > 50USD for 1 used

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-22 Thread Nicholas Stock
Damn! Someone didn't do their research (or just wanted to be generous?). Anyone snag those here? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2021, at 02:40, fax_awd wrote: > > 50USD for 1 used tested B7971, are we back to 2010? > https://www.ebay.com/itm/233867007640 > > M1在 2020年4月30日星期四下午2:58:10

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2021-01-22 Thread fax_awd
50USD for 1 used tested B7971, are we back to 2010? https://www.ebay.com/itm/233867007640 M1在 2020年4月30日星期四下午2:58:10 [UTC+8]寫道: > Nothing wrong with that. Heh. > > But, damn, that’s even more expensive than me. > > > > He should put up pictures. People like to see pretty colors. > > > >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-21 Thread Wayne de Geere III
I’m down for two, more if it can be a generic data receiver and display, I have been wanting something like that, Burroughs nixie based for a long, long time. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 17, 2020, at 08:24, Peter Doroba wrote: > Any luck moving the remaining merch? :-) > > On Saturday,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-19 Thread Wo Tu
Sounds good. For me only pcb and parts please. peter@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 18. Dezember 2020 um 22:34:34 UTC+1: > Glad to hear! > > Pete > > On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:00:39 PM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: > >> Hi, Peter. Actually, yes! Happy to say there was sufficient

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-18 Thread Peter Doroba
Glad to hear! Pete On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:00:39 PM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: > Hi, Peter. Actually, yes! Happy to say there was sufficient interest to > justify another batch. I will send out the details in the next few days. > Looking forward to having these manufactured! >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-18 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Hi, Peter. Actually, yes! Happy to say there was sufficient interest to justify another batch. I will send out the details in the next few days. Looking forward to having these manufactured! On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:24 AM Peter Doroba wrote: > Any luck moving the remaining merch? :-) > > On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-17 Thread Peter Doroba
Any luck moving the remaining merch? :-) On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 10:07:20 PM UTC-5 Peter Doroba wrote: > Okay, count me in for a board. Good luck with the training! Seems we're > into the same things just in different order. I'm working on learning > microcontroller programming and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-08 Thread Jim KO5V
That could be a picture of what I received! I think I bought three lots from that seller, and each lot had at least one broken tube - BUT, they were really cheap! On Monday, December 7, 2020 at 3:04:36 AM UTC-7 Nick wrote: > Indeed - I mentioned that above. > >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-07 Thread Nick
Indeed - I mentioned that above. https://nick.desmith.net/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 03:19:13 UTC Nixcited delighted wrote: > Wasn't this guy trading as USmintquarters or similar? > > John > > > > > On 6 Dec 2020, at 20:08, Nick wrote: > > I certainly didn't buy all

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-06 Thread Ⓙⓞⓗⓝ Ⓢⓜⓞⓤⓣ
Wasn't this guy trading as USmintquarters or similar? John On 6 Dec 2020, at 20:08, Nick wrote: I certainly didn't buy all the 900 - I bought a few hundred, but so did others on this group - he wanted USD 20/tube - you could negotiate on bulk. -- You received this message because you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-06 Thread 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l
Yup. Ordered 8. Got 10 but only 8 intact. Wrapped in newspaper > On 6 Dec 2020, at 20:08, Nick wrote: > > I certainly didn't buy all the 900 - I bought a few hundred, but so did > others on this group - he wanted USD 20/tube - you could negotiate on bulk. > > Tubes were not Jim's business

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-06 Thread Nick
I certainly didn't buy all the 900 - I bought a few hundred, but so did others on this group - he wanted USD 20/tube - you could negotiate on bulk. Tubes were not Jim's business - I think he acquired a warehouse for his coin business and these were in there in crates, wrapped up in old

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Peter Doroba
Okay, count me in for a board. Good luck with the training! Seems we're into the same things just in different order. I'm working on learning microcontroller programming and PCB design. Pete On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 9:39:29 AM UTC-5 Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: > Hi, Peter, very cool!

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Wo Tu
Yes. I like soldering all the parts. As well as smd parts ... Mahdi Al Husseini schrieb am Samstag, 5. Dezember 2020 um 18:19:25 UTC+1: > Yes that’s certainly possible but are you sure you would like that? There > are more than 100 individual discrete transistors on the board, an equal >

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Yes that’s certainly possible but are you sure you would like that? There are more than 100 individual discrete transistors on the board, an equal number of individual pin sockets, and nearly double that number of SMD resistors. Perhaps you really like soldering! On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 11:47 AM

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Wo Tu
Thank you. Would it be possible to get the pcb and all the parts , pcb not assembled ? Mahdi Al Husseini schrieb am Samstag, 5. Dezember 2020 um 17:37:10 UTC+1: > Hi Wo, glad to hear you're interested. I am offering the fully assembled > PCB (- the tubes). > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 11:24 AM

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Hi Wo, glad to hear you're interested. I am offering the fully assembled PCB (- the tubes). On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 11:24 AM Wo Tu wrote: > Hi ! > I am interested too. Whats the offer , an assembled pcb or only the pcb ? > Greetings > > Mahdi Al Husseini schrieb am Samstag, 5. Dezember 2020 um

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Wo Tu
Hi ! I am interested too. Whats the offer , an assembled pcb or only the pcb ? Greetings Mahdi Al Husseini schrieb am Samstag, 5. Dezember 2020 um 15:39:29 UTC+1: > Hi, Peter, very cool! I have my commercial and instrument ratings in > rotary aircraft (and am working on my commercial multi

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Hi, Peter, very cool! I have my commercial and instrument ratings in rotary aircraft (and am working on my commercial multi engine FW). Possibly ATP one day - we’ll see! Yes, all of what you are requesting can be done seamlessly, though it requires a wifi network that you can connect to, to be

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-05 Thread Peter Doroba
Great! I'd likely take you up on the code help offer. I did start out as an EE major in college but switched to Aeronautical Science when I got the flying bug. :) I'm a Spirit Airlines Captain and live on an airport so the the METAR/TAF feature really speaks to me. LOL Maybe a silly question

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 DUSTOFF Board Interest

2020-12-04 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
Yes of course! Currently, it will immediately select the closest airport based on longitude and latitude data, but it is very easy to adjust the code to select a particular airport ID. I can help with that as needed. The current code for TAF/METAR is attached for reference. If purchased, I will

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-04 Thread Bill Notfaded
Robert you might be able to bounce the tube with some padding around it and unshort the shorted segments. It's been done before. One trick is to tape it to a broom handle so you can force the entire tube against something like a stack of paper and get good force evenly distributed without

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-04 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath
I got my first board from Poly Paks sometime in the late 1970’s. Probably paid about $4 if I recall. One tube had shorted segments. I was about 15. Then in 1979 I decided to build a clock and bought three boards from Meshna Electronics. After I assembled that, I decided I would get spare

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Nick Andrews
Yeah, that too. And register a whole lot of machine guns before May 1986, and file mining claims, then patent claims to get the land transferred to me before then too. And get someone to buy me a few B-17 and B-29s right after the war. And a few 62 Corvettes, and a Ferrari 250 or two... On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2020-12-03 4:45 p.m., gregebert wrote: Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago (1970s/1980s) ? I recall they were inexpensive, and many were sold in pairs along with the socket/driver board after being scrapped from Lectrascan units. Good Old ETCO

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Jeff Walton
that cracked due to the many moves over the years. Jeff From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of gregebert Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:46 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago (1970s

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Nick Andrews
I'll give you $25 each for some of those! On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:06 PM Nick wrote: > Mine all came from Jim Scutio at usmintquartets man years ago- several > crates at under usd 20 each. he had about 900 and just wanted rid of them. > > On Thursday, 3 December 2020 at 21:45:50 UTC gregebert

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Nicholas Stock
900 Nick?? REALLY?? Got any you want to offload for a couple $ each? LOL. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Nick wrote: > Mine all came from Jim Scutio at usmintquartets man years ago- several > crates at under usd 20 each. he had about 900 and just wanted rid of them. > > On Thursday, 3 December

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Nick
Mine all came from Jim Scutio at usmintquartets man years ago- several crates at under usd 20 each. he had about 900 and just wanted rid of them. On Thursday, 3 December 2020 at 21:45:50 UTC gregebert wrote: > Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago >

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Michail Wilson
each. Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of gregebert Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 1:46 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago (1970s/1980s) ? I recall they were

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread gregebert
Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago (1970s/1980s) ? I recall they were inexpensive, and many were sold in pairs along with the socket/driver board after being scrapped from Lectrascan units. Just curious how some of you acquired a large stash. On Thursday,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971

2020-12-03 Thread Nicholas Stock
They're currently going for anywhere from 160 to 200 dollars on eBay. Pictures of them being tested will help. Too rich for my blood at the moment, but I have enough of them already :) Best of luck selling them! Cheers Nick Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2020, at 10:32, Wo Tu wrote: >

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-30 Thread Michail Wilson
Nothing wrong with that. Heh. But, damn, that’s even more expensive than me. He should put up pictures. People like to see pretty colors. Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of fax_awd Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:30 PM To: neonixie-l Subject:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-20 Thread Michail Wilson
Too bad it's only a starting price. So, I started. Michail From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com on behalf of fax_awd Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 11:29 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay https://www.ebay.com/itm/164167398321

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Scales
It was your posts that inspired me to have a go, with success and yes, the tube I had was shorted in the exact same place.Sent from my Huawei phone Original message From: Jeff Walton Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020, 06:32To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Jeff Walton
--From: Richard Scales Date: 4/5/20 11:44 PM (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay I am equally hooked. It wont help you much but I had success with removing a short using the banging method - I would not have thought it possible but it worke

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Richard Scales
I am equally hooked. It wont help you much but I had success with removing a short using the banging method - I would not have thought it possible but it worked. I could actually see the change in position of the cathode in question - a little geometry workout in advance ensured I was applying

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread gregebert
The one-and-only "antenna" version of the b7971 I had in my 8-tube clock failed as shorted segments after 2 years of usage. Not sure if others have seen reliability issues with a particular tube style, but that's my experience. I only use direct-drive, and the clock is well-protected from

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Michail Wilson
The first link shows a little poisoning on the underscore. The second link is mine. They went for $220 a tube. I only posted for those people that really really really need one. (Did expect a purchase of more than 1 at a time.) I will post more, but again, only meant for people that don’t want

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Bill Notfaded
One of the two tubes is the rarer antenna tube. They made much less of them. I actually try and avoid them because they don't match my others. I have close to 30 tubes now and a bunch of clocks. I think Michail almost had enough of the antenna tubes to make a clock with them maybe? I just

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread fax_awd
o, love the work area in the background. Looks like mine. Completely > utilitized. > > > > Michail Wilson > > 206-920-6312 > > > > *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > neoni...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Adam Munich > *Sent:* Wed

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-05 Thread Jon Jackson
You still have to be careful with these all-segments-lit-up photos, as I think it would be a great way to disguise the fact that multiple segments could be stuck on together. I have of couple of B-7971s that have two segments that come on together due to some kind of internal short, and no amount

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-04-01 Thread Michail Wilson
in the background. Looks like mine. Completely utilitized. Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Munich Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:59 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-31 Thread Mahdi Al Husseini
I started too late unfortunately, I doubt I’ll have a shot at 8971s... but here’s to hoping On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:24 PM Michail Wilson wrote: > Heh. And… I am still jealous you got a B8971 Mod clock as it’s one I > didn’t see in time to buy one. It’s ok though… I made up for it by >

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-31 Thread Michail Wilson
Heh. And… I am still jealous you got a B8971 Mod clock as it’s one I didn’t see in time to buy one. It’s ok though… I made up for it by spending money to get a vast supply of tubes. So many now that I had to get a storage shed. I keep telling myself…. Ok, that’s it. No more. Ha! (The

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread martin martin
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread gregebert
Opportunity is knocking on Dalibor's door for a "Rb|7971" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.
Personally i noticed a price-rise in alot of items on ebay, not just nixies or tubes. I follow alot of searches of vintage tech and noticed that items are selling alot more expensive than a half year ago... Prices for nixies, huge tubes(decorative), other displays, radiation related items,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
So the pictures I intended did not et posted on the Google Groups version. The first image is the "fast" picture from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread fax_awd
really? lol i always assume if the seller claim it is untested, the buyer take all responsibility no matter the thing is good or bad..seems i am still a newbie on ebay... i miss this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread fax_awd
really? lol i always assume if the seller claim it is untested, the buyer take all responsibility no matter the thing is good or bad..seems i am still a newbie on ebay... i miss this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread Nicholas Stock
Not as crazy as this...

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's on the bay....

2020-03-29 Thread Michail Wilson
The problem with ebay is that if the tubes are bad, ebay will force the seller to take them back. So, untested and sold as-is doesn’t matter to a buyer anymore. $150 is not bad. I’ve seen them sell for as much as $300 on ebay. When I saw them going up, I couldn’t help but post my own. I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 value?

2019-08-27 Thread Jan Douwe Bakker
Please delete my mail. It was a mistake sorry. Il giorno mar 27 ago 2019 alle ore 09:30 Jan Douwe Bakker < jandouwe.bakke...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Why didn't you update Ebay. Now I have to ask for refund...3 > > Il Mar 27 Ago 2019 05:01 Jim Faulkner ha scritto: > >> Hello, >> >> Sorry, I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 value?

2019-08-27 Thread Jan Douwe Bakker
Why didn't you update Ebay. Now I have to ask for refund...3 Il Mar 27 Ago 2019 05:01 Jim Faulkner ha scritto: > Hello, > > Sorry, I don't have any more tubes to sell. > > Thank you for your inquiry. > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Q L > Sent: Aug 26, 2019 7:46 PM > To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 value?

2019-08-26 Thread Jim Faulkner
Hello,Sorry, I don't have any more tubes to sell.Thank you for your inquiry.Jim-Original Message- From: Q L Sent: Aug 26, 2019 7:46 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 value? Hello: I want to buy six B-7971, Do you have any more?在 2019年7月4日星期四 UTC+8下午9:46:52,Jim

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 questions

2019-08-09 Thread Nicholas Stock
I’m going to (respectfully) disagree here. I used to be of the same opinion (when they were 10 dollars a tube) and hence didn’t think they were a real nixie tube. I now regret that stance. They’re fascinating devices with an apparent ‘infinite’ life span (still haven’t had one die of ‘natural’

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 "Repair"

2018-12-30 Thread Michail Wilson
I have run into a few tubes like this. I was lucky enough to have been able to dislodge them. I believe you’re right in that it must have been in shipping as the seller of one of them actually took a video of the tube working and had lit each segment prior to shipping. Similar to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-31 Thread A.J. Franzman
Got any plastic model kits with "chrome" parts? Those are made by vacuum metal deposition, essentially the same process by which the glass inside those 7032 tubes we've been commenting on has become silvered. Put an ohmmeter onto one of those model parts and see what kind of a reading you get.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-30 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
I will believe it when I see it. On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 5:20:08 PM UTC-7, A.J. Franzman wrote: > > If you sputter enough metal onto any insulator, you can make it conduct. > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-7, j@my-deja.com wrote: >> >> I think this is improbable. On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-30 Thread A.J. Franzman
If you sputter enough metal onto any insulator, you can make it conduct. On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-7, j@my-deja.com wrote: > > I think this is improbable. On the one tube that I dissected*, the back > substrate is an insulating white ceramic with an insulating black

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-30 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
I would believe it was NOS if it was accompanied by a pristine box, the lettering on the tube was all sharp and crisp, and the pins were all straight (with no tool marks from straightening) and unscratched (or maybe one scratch from burn-in). -- You received this message because you are

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-30 Thread Jeff Walton
@googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:28 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:31:39 PM UTC-7, A.J. Franzman wrote: ... They might be shorted to the back substrate and possibly even each other via the substrate... I think

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-30 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 9:31:39 PM UTC-7, A.J. Franzman wrote: > > ... They might be shorted to the back substrate and possibly even each > other via the substrate... > I think this is improbable. On the one tube that I dissected*, the back substrate is an insulating white ceramic with

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-29 Thread A.J. Franzman
You got that backwards. Unused digits/segments in a nixie become "poisoned" by stuff given off from the active segments. Trying to light those middle vertical and diagonal segments in a tube from a well-used "Giant Nixie Clock" from the early 1970's now, might reveal that those segments don't

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-27 Thread 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l
On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 1:38:28 PM UTC-7, rmp wrote: > > To the folks who are still running the "Giant Nixie Clock". From the early > 1970's: > ... as I recall it treated the tubes as 7-segment devices...Am I correct? Yes. It was based on the MM5314 from National Semiconductor.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-27 Thread rmp
To the folks who are still running the "Giant Nixie Clock". From the early 1970's: I built one of these way back when. Unfortunately, it is long gone, but as I recall it treated the tubes as 7-segment devices, and so the 2 middle vertical and the 4 diagonal segments will NEVER have been lit.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-27 Thread Dekatron42
I ran across similar capacitor problem when using surface mount tantalum capacitors and MLCC capacitors, without the proper working voltage across them they behave poorly. I had to read a lot of design notes and datasheets to realise that they did not fit my design, MLCC capacitors has to be

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-27 Thread JohnK
-l] Re: b7971 segment current On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 12:21:56 AM UTC-7, Jeff Walton wrote: >During the life of the clock, there were a couple failures of the caps in the voltage doubler When your cap(s) failed, was it catastrophic ? I've only had 1 electrolytic f

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-26 Thread gregebert
On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 12:21:56 AM UTC-7, Jeff Walton wrote: > > >During the life of the clock, there were a couple failures of the caps in > the voltage doubler > When your cap(s) failed, was it catastrophic ? I've only had 1 electrolytic fail in recent history, and it was a

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: b7971 segment current

2016-08-24 Thread Jeff Walton
Greg – my 1971 clock with Burroughs CK8754 nixie tubes ran 27/7/365 for over 35 years with no tube or digit failures. It used 74141 drivers driven at ~170 volts by a rectified line voltage doubler circuit using recommended anode resistors from the example circuits out of the Texas Instruments

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Ebay prices now

2014-06-06 Thread Nicholas Stock
I'm still waiting for Dalibor to come up with a cheaper alternative...;-) On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:17 PM, gregeb...@hotmail.com gregeb...@hotmail.com wrote: If you think that's bad, check out the Z568M's.set of 4 for $1500 US I can't imagine what a set of six CD47's would go for. --

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Ebay prices now

2014-06-06 Thread chuck richards
Makes sense to me. They are roughly $15 tubes and the currency has been devalued to about .01 of that value. Original Message From: gregeb...@hotmail.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Ebay prices now Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 14:17:53 -0700 (PDT) If you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 NOS or simply old

2013-05-28 Thread Marcin
Among members here we have seen thousands of B7971 and as Michail wrote: 'I have not seen a completely black plate'. Should it be then assumed that we can not use whitening of the back-plate behind segments as a clear sign that the tube was used? Sorry for pushing this back over and over. I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 NOS or simply old

2013-05-27 Thread David Forbes
On 5/27/13 9:25 AM, Nick wrote: I have never seen a guaranteed-no-ambiguity-absolutely-certain-NOS B7971. Its known that when the tubes were swapped out from Ultronics panels that the removed tubes were normally fine (never seen a failed B7971 either) and placed into the expanded polystyrene

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 NOS or simply old

2013-05-27 Thread Nick
I have some boxes of 200 NL 5440As from Richardson with no markings at all - nada. Mind you, the boxes they came in are marked! My guess is that these were intended to be white labelled, i.e. marked just prior to shipment with the branding the purchaser requested... Nick -- You received

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 NOS or simply old

2013-05-27 Thread Dekatron42
There was (is?) a German seller who sold B-7971 in identical styrofoam boxes a few years ago. His came from unopened cardboard boxes which looked to be original and those tubes were as clean as these and they did not have any markings on them either. That seller was (is?) a respected seller of

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