[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: Hi Sage Devels, etc. [...] If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the newest zip file and start hacking. If you have something useful to say, respond to this email and join the sage-windows mailing list. Useful? I downloaded MSVC 2008 pro

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote: William Stein wrote: Hi Sage Devels, etc. [...] If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the newest zip file and start hacking.  If you have something useful to say, respond to this email and join

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Fredrik Johansson
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab work. Running sage results in the following (not much in

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
William Stein wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote: William Stein wrote: Hi Sage Devels, etc. [...] If you are interested in helping, see the web page, download the newest zip file and start hacking. If you have something useful to say, respond to

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to work. At

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to work. At

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-24 Thread Jaap Spies
Fredrik Johansson wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Here's something to try: FYI, I compiled sage-windows-0-3 with the freeware Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and it seems to work. At least both sympy and pylab work. For me building with the

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my university. I think it would not be illegal to compile and distribute sage for you with it. But remember, i am not a lawyer...AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:00 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage Devels, etc. I

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:31 am, ahmet alper parker aapar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you need visual studio 2008, I have one, which is purchased by my university. The Sage project has several MSVC 2008 Professional licenses donated by Microsoft Research for the port, so we are good. The point William

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Kenny
There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such a bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage team provides from the website. Obviously don't be mad at me, that's just the way i see and therefore take it as a suggestion. bye Rob. ahmet alper

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 3:37 am, Kenny masso.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, There is no need for a window$ server... don't waste your time in such a bad way... it is easy to use the wmplayer and the image that the sage team provides from the website. There are *plenty* of reasons to do a native

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use windows, I won't. Let me give an example, last night I read an article about

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker aapar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think one of the main idea behind developing a real alternative for Magma, Matlab, Mathematica etc. is their license costs and restrictions on altering the source code etc. Personally, if I had chance to not to use

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I will help with the Windows port. Is it feasible to have the source code in SVN? On Feb 23, 5:00 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sage Devels, etc. I am getting very impatient about how slowly work on the Microsoft Windows Sage Project has been moving.  Thus I've started a new

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread ahmet alper parker
The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. AAP On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:16 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 5:16 am, ahmet alper parker aapar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think one of the main

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread kcrisman
Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo on http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. Also, http://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/timeline probably should be updated e.g. with a cut-and-paste of some part of the OP's first message in this thread. It sounds

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:41 am, ahmet alper parker aapar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The article was:http://thebetaguy.com/exclusives/?postid=1029344029 I am not sure about it's technical correctness.. AAP Thanks for the link. Note that the article was posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - I thought maybe

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:45 am, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just FYI, there is a miniscule typo onhttp://wiki.sagemath.org/windows/msvc64-issues insofar as it refers to the 32-bit port. This is correct since for now we are doing 32 bits only, at least from my end which is complementary to

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given that the beta has been downloaded a couple million times from MS themselves

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 7:52 am, Alfredo Portes doyenatc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alfredo, On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code.

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Blair blai...@googlemail.com wrote: I will help with the Windows port. Thanks. What's your last name? I want to add it to the windows.sagemath.org page. Also, please subscribe to the sage-windows mailing list. Is it feasible to have the source code in

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. Is there an advantage of using HG/Mercurial over SVN. Speed perhaps? On Windows, TortoiseSVN is very popular among many open source projects because of its tight

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the latest source snapshot from the Windows site? On Feb 23, 4:44 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with the latest source snapshot from the Windows site? Blair,

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread mabshoff
On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey tim.la...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't mind using Mercurial. I hope it has an interface similar to Tortoise SVN. How long would it take to set up the repository with

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread Blair
TortoiseHg and 32 bit look like they fit the bill for me. Thanks. On Feb 23, 5:45 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 9:37 am, Tim Lahey tim.la...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Blair wrote: My last name is Sutton and my trac id is bsutton. I don't

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, didier deshommes dfdes...@gmail.com wrote: The link to the windows binary seems light (64MB); which parts of sage are included in it? cython, freetype, ipython, libpng, matplotlib, mercurial, moin, mpir, networkx, numpy, pycrypto, pyreadline, python, pywin32,

[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project

2009-02-23 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Blair blai...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought the complete windows port should be available via SCM. Yes of course that will be a shortterm goal. Otherwise collaboration is difficult. I find working on downloaded source snapshots a bit too cumbersome. Is