Please open up a ticket at https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/new
and attach files for reproducing the situation.
Am Do., 23. Mai 2024 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb Francesco PETRAROLI via sumo-user
:
> I set several crossings on my net. But i noticed that in some of them both
> persons and
The easiest way is to let a vehicle drive that route in sumo with option
--tripinfo-output. Then read the route length from the output file.
Am Di., 21. Mai 2024 um 23:21 Uhr schrieb TIPPANA RAJESH via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> How can we find the length of a route in sumo?
>
There is currently no option for slowing down during cruising though (
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/14894).
Am Di., 21. Mai 2024 um 08:07 Uhr schrieb Jakob Erdmann <
namdre.s...@gmail.com>:
> call generateParkingAreaRerouters with options
> --max-distance-visibility-true 0 and
call generateParkingAreaRerouters with options
--max-distance-visibility-true 0 and --min-capacity-visibility-true 1
to ensure that the alternatives all get the status visible="false"
Am Di., 21. Mai 2024 um 07:30 Uhr schrieb Rohan Verma via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear
No, this personNumber is just a convenience for changing the remaining
capacity of the car without modelling some persons explicitly.
Put you can define cars that start with "real" persons in them as well:
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Specification/Persons.html#starting_the_simulation_in_a_vehicle
Am
o ven 17 mag 2024 alle 13:19 Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@eclipse.org> ha scritto:
>
>> You can define a at the entrance edge for the university that
>> keeps the persons at that location for the desired duration / end time. See
>> https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/
You can define a at the entrance edge for the university that keeps
the persons at that location for the desired duration / end time. See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Specification/Persons.html#stops
If you need more detail you could model the pathways within the university
as well.
Am Fr., 17. Mai
Hi Jan,
so far we didn't have to deal with the problem of guessing traffic for the
side roads based only on observations of the main roads.
I see two possible approaches here and both try to avoid "excessive"
traffic on the side roads:
1. trying to get a "better" initial distribution of random
cks me if I try to follow the
> opposite direction of a footway
>
> Il giorno ven 17 mag 2024 alle ore 10:09 Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@eclipse.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Pedestrians may always use both directions of a footway or sidewalk.
>>
>>
Pedestrians may always use both directions of a footway or sidewalk.
Am Fr., 17. Mai 2024 um 09:20 Uhr schrieb Francesco PETRAROLI via sumo-user
:
> Is there a way to build a footway single lane that allows pedestrians to
> use it in both directions or do I need to create a lane for the other
sumo option --max-num-vehicles 2000 serves this purpose.
Am Fr., 17. Mai 2024 um 05:51 Uhr schrieb Petr Chytil via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hi All,
> I have scenario with "flows", is there a way to pause the generation of
> vehicles at some amount in the simulation, for example
mag 2024 alle ore 12:01 Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@eclipse.org> ha scritto:
>
>> Please zip and attach the network file.
>>
>> Am Do., 16. Mai 2024 um 10:20 Uhr schrieb Francesco PETRAROLI via
>> sumo-user :
>>
>>> from my .net
1. No, during the iteration itself but you can view any single iteration
afterwards by loading the .sumocfg file in the iteration folder
2. It's not common but still possible if the
"fastest-path-in-the-empty-network"-routes happen to be the best. Though
eventually, the iterations should
Please zip and attach the network file.
Am Do., 16. Mai 2024 um 10:20 Uhr schrieb Francesco PETRAROLI via sumo-user
:
> from my .net.xml file pedestrians were already disallowed from that lane.
>
> Il giorno gio 16 mag 2024 alle ore 10:08 Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@
In order for the crossing to work you have to disallow pedestrians on the
road (otherwise the road models shared space and doesn't need a crossing).
See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Pedestrians.html#pedestrian_simulation
Am Do., 16. Mai 2024 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb Francesco PETRAROLI via
The relevant warning is " Vehicle ... arrived inside e3Detector". Example:
e3_4 only covers two exit lanes but the vehicles may change lanes and thus
leave the intersection on any of 5 or potentially 8 lanes.
Am Do., 16. Mai 2024 um 09:41 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer via sumo-user <
@Div, from a technical point of view, it wouldn't be to hard to let the
user define a charging-rate-curve parameter for the vehicle. Are you aware
of available data on such curves?
Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 12:32 Uhr schrieb The div via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> You can get the
We noticed that people are using the existing capabilities of SUMO for
airport and air traffic simulation and wanted to support them in this.
There are no special car following models for aircraft yet but there might
be completely different movement models in the future (similar to how
pedestrians
This functionality isn't yet implemented in TraCI:
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/12772
The easiest workaround is probably a python script that generates/modifies
the chargingStation file before starting the simulation.
Am Sa., 11. Mai 2024 um 12:24 Uhr schrieb TIPPANA RAJESH via
here is an example:
https://sumo.dlr.de/extractTest.php?path=sumo/output/e3/junction_output/interior
Am Sa., 11. Mai 2024 um 04:02 Uhr schrieb alex david figueredo mora via
sumo-user :
> I've been running a simulation in which I want to find the LOS (Level of
> Service) so I placed several E3
You can retrieve tripinfo values that are accumulated over all vehicles
with traci.simulation.getParameter. See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/TraCI/Simulation_Value_Retrieval.html#device_parameter_retrieval
Am Fr., 10. Mai 2024 um 13:45 Uhr schrieb Ayomide Afolabi via sumo-user <
Dear friends and users,
we are happy to announce the release of SUMO version 1.20.0.
The download links are at https://sumo.dlr.de/Download.
If you cite the new release in your publications, please use the DOI
10.5281/zenodo.11120728 https://zenodo.org/records/11120728
This release brings
The output of randomTrips is (as the name suggest) quite random and thus
generally not realistic.
The behavior you describe is a bit unclear though. If you only add a single
stop per vehicle then the vehicle should drive to its original destination
and disappear after finishing the stop.
Check the
In the latest dev version you can distribute a triggered personFlow with
randomized departures over a flow of vehicles. See
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/14806 and the referenced test
commits.
Am Mi., 1. Mai 2024 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Marc Zofka via sumo-user <
As the directory "purgatory" tries to suggest, this tool is no longer
maintained.
You can convert your poi file to csv with tools/xml/xml2csv.py and then
obtain the detectors with
tools/detector/mapDetectors.py
Am Do., 25. Apr. 2024 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Joan Carmona Mercadé via
sumo-user :
> Hi,
As a first approximation, you can just combine the traffic generated from
counts with that from GTFS.
If public transport is a major part of your cities traffic volume, you can
simulate with GTFS-only at first and collect the public transport counting
data from your simulation. You can then
setting flags=2 in setStop defines a "triggered" stop. The vehicle will
only resume after stop_time has passed *and* a person has entered. Setting
the flag to 0 will fix this.
Am Di., 23. Apr. 2024 um 18:56 Uhr schrieb Belikhov, Danil via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hello, SUMO
It looks as if you manipulated the .net.xml file directly. Never do this (
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/FAQ.html#i_made_changes_to_the_netxml-file_but_it_did_not_work_as_expected_why
).
Instead set the junction type to allway_stop in netedit and that should be
enough.
Am Mo., 22. Apr. 2024 um 09:11
The router is known to underestimate waiting times at traffic lights if the
network doesn't have any other cars in it.
You can use duarouter with the same trips as input and it will tell you the
estimate traveltime, it should be lower for the route without a middle
point.
The next step would be to
Calibrators currently do not support pedestrians.
W.r.t the delayed spawning, this was done to accommodate "naturally"
occurring vehicles but does indeed lead to artifacts if calibrators are the
only source of traffic.
Am Mi., 17. Apr. 2024 um 16:59 Uhr schrieb Kaitlyn Liu via sumo-user <
see https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Rerouter.html#reversible_lanes
for short term switching, sumo also provides a traffic light layout:
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Traffic_Lights.html#phase_layout_alternateoneway
Am Mo., 15. Apr. 2024 um 11:01 Uhr schrieb Matt Bering via sumo-user <
The difference is caused by having two different simulations:
- The first simulation is run with traci control (traci.start, ...
traci.lane.setAllowed, ... traci.close() and reflects the use of the BPL
- The second simulation is run with subprocess.run and doesn't have the
BPL.
Your first
Hello,
you can disable overtaking by setting vType attribute lcKeepRight="0"
see
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Definition_of_Vehicles%2C_Vehicle_Types%2C_and_Routes.html#lane-changing_models
Am Fr., 5. Apr. 2024 um 17:26 Uhr schrieb Joseph Grech via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hi,
>
> I am
the sumocfg option is
instead of
Am Di., 2. Apr. 2024 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb Deborah Akindoye via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Sorry about that, Please find the attached files
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 14:21, Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@eclipse.or
n't
> appear in the trip info file. I used the command prompt "sumo-gui -c
> bts_added.sumocfg --tripinfo-output tripinfo_emissions.xml"
> I attached the configuration file and the trip info output below.
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 at 20:43, Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user <
>
Yes. See https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Output/TripInfo.html#devices
Am Mo., 1. Apr. 2024 um 07:12 Uhr schrieb Deborah Akindoye via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hello Everyone,
> I am trying to collect emission outputs from a sumo simulation using
> "sumo -c run.sumocfg
use departLane="free" or "random" in your vehicles/flows/trips
see
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Definition_of_Vehicles%2C_Vehicle_Types%2C_and_Routes.html#departlane
Am So., 31. März 2024 um 06:04 Uhr schrieb 薛田莉 via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hello,
> I created the net files and
This is a bug. See https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/14617
Am Mi., 27. März 2024 um 15:58 Uhr schrieb Daniel Aguilar Marsillach via
sumo-user :
> Hi there,
>
> I'm having an issue with headway and lead vehicle identification using
> Traci when a lead vehicle enters a junction. The
Yes, you can call readNet on an additional file and pass the net als
argument. See
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/blob/main/tests/tools/sumolib/net_and_additional/runner.py
Am Mo., 25. März 2024 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Sasan Amini via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear all,
>
> I am
The gif is at
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/blob/main/tools/game/dlr.gif and you
should be able to simply start in
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/blob/main/tools/game/runner.py in a
cloned repo to test the game. We don't have any documentation though.
In most games, clicking on a
Please try the nightly version after tomorrows update. It contains a patch
which allows for seamless rendering of tiles.
Note, that the .net.xml must have be built with the correct mercator
projection instead of the default UTM projection for this to work.
If you obtained your initial map with
There are tons of options to configure turn-around generation (i.e.
--no-turnarounds).
see https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/netconvert.html#junctions
Am Do., 21. März 2024 um 09:46 Uhr schrieb Joan Carmona Mercadé via
sumo-user :
> Hi Community,
>
>
>
> I’m importing a network from OSM data.
>
>
>
> The
The OSM wiki describes how to add elevation data to an OSM dataset:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Srtm_to_Nodes
If you manage to obtain importable geoTiffs from any of the pages mentioned
in https://gisgeography.com/free-global-dem-data-sources/, let us know.
(for use with netconvert
Yes. See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Definition_of_Vehicles%2C_Vehicle_Types%2C_and_Routes.html#incomplete_routes_trips_and_flows
Am Do., 14. März 2024 um 14:38 Uhr schrieb Rohan Verma via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear community,
> Until now, I have been defining routes in the routes
Can you provide an osm input example with "ele" keys?
Am Do., 14. März 2024 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Louis REYNAUD via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
>
>
>
> Hello everybody,
>
>
> I want to generate a net via netconvert of sumo from an osm file, I want
> this net to contain the elevation. In
see
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Distances.html#vehicle_lengths_in_sumo-gui
Am Do., 14. März 2024 um 06:07 Uhr schrieb Petr Chytil via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hello,
> check the elevation of junctions, this seems like a big slope on road.
>
> Petr
> -- Původní e-mail
ignals. If I remove that, then the ring and barierPhases
> are also defined. Not sure if this is a bug or limited feature that
> has not been implemented yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Sasan
>
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 11:06 AM Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user
> wrote:
> >
> >
If you recreate the roundabout you can change the radius at will and if the
radius is large enough the warnings will disappear. However this would not
reflect the real-world geometry. The root cause is the wrong number of
lanes which is even easier to fix in netedit.
Am Mi., 6. März 2024 um 16:23
- the extension is somewhat arbitrary. saving trips in a .rou.xml file is
fine
- sumo can load both kinds of files (using option --route-files). See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Definition_of_Vehicles%2C_Vehicle_Types%2C_and_Routes.html#incomplete_routes_trips_and_flows
- it likely makes more sense to
There is a bug ( https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/14459) that
causes function setSpeed to override stopping behavior to some extent.
This is fixed in v1_19_0-1154
Am Mo., 4. März 2024 um 17:23 Uhr schrieb Hector A Martinez via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear sumo community,
See https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/14449
Am Fr., 1. März 2024 um 10:57 Uhr schrieb Rohan Verma via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear community,
> In my scenario (screenshot attached), when the traffic jam builds up. The
> vehicles that have completed their stops and want to
1 We do have tests where ring and barrier params are created automatically
(see
https://sumo.dlr.de/extractTest.php?path=netconvert/import/XML/tl_types/NEMA).
Please provide example input where an invalid NEMA controller is written
to the network.
2. This is the fallback if the existing
You can get an example for using lane weight files from our test suite:
https://sumo.dlr.de/extractTest.php?path=duarouter/function/routing/lane_weight_files
Note, that all this does is take the average of lane values and use this
for the edge. The routing itself is always edge based.
If you want
ectly?
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:50 PM Jakob Erdmann via sumo-user
> wrote:
> >
> > No. user-defined attributes always take precedence.
> >
> > Am Di., 27. Feb. 2024 um 14:02 Uhr schrieb Sasan Amini via sumo-user <
> sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
>
No. user-defined attributes always take precedence.
Am Di., 27. Feb. 2024 um 14:02 Uhr schrieb Sasan Amini via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear all,
>
> I have a question about vehicle type/class definition. If I define a vType
> as:
> speedFactor="0.90"
Are you setting any options for automatic routing already (
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Demand/Automatic_Routing.html) ?
The only reason for why this would happen with default options is a massive
jam lasting a whole day. By default, trips that cannot enter the network
are rerouted once per minute.
Your network is lacking pedestrian crossings and thus any "correct"
behavior is incidental. Please refer to
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Pedestrians.html
Am Fr., 23. Feb. 2024 um 11:08 Uhr schrieb Schlamp, Anna-Lena via sumo-user
:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would like to simulate pedestrians at a
We don't have any tools for this yet.
It shouldn't be too hard to hack a python script that generates traffic
light xml with custom switch rules for prioritization.
However, we also plan to add this as a direct feature (
https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/9163), There was even some work
1. No. The assumption here is roadside parking where everybody would like
to park at their final destination (i.e. home address). Thus everybody has
a different stop location.
2. distance is the extra driving distance to the alternative parking spot
(this may include a lot of cruising in circles
netconvert option -R does this (--geometry.remove). You can post-process an
existing network but then you have to repair all the routes and
infrastructure that were previously defined.
example:
netconvert -s old.net.xml -o new.net.xml -R
Am Mi., 3. Jan. 2024 um 11:32 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer
It shouldn't be too hard to avoid this dependency path on our end. Is this
still relevant to you?
regards,
Jakob
Am Do., 4. Jan. 2024 um 16:38 Uhr schrieb Matthew Jones via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hello Mirko,
>
> Thanks.
>
> I think it is failing because of this code in
>
There are several possible workarounds:
- create two short edges on top of each other (one for trucks and one for
normal cars) ahead of the sharp turn. This way you can still use
prohibitions with separate rules for either vehicle class
- use traci to define some additional checks and stop the
You can use E3 detectors to obtain time-mean speed over specific parts.
Am Mo., 15. Jan. 2024 um 12:37 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear Rohan,
>
>
>
> your request is quite specific, such that there is no exact match with the
> existing output options of
See this list of resources for replicating the fundamental diagram (on
loops and straight roads):
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Tutorials/FundamentalDiagram.html
Am Mi., 17. Jan. 2024 um 08:28 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear François,
>
>
>
> tkinter is not
or you could convert your elevation data into one of the supported formats:
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Networks/Elevation.html
Am Do., 25. Jan. 2024 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Dear Emanuel,
>
>
>
> the Z coordinate can be updated the same way as
Pedestrians have dedicated infrastructure as explained here:
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Pedestrians.html
Am Do., 1. Feb. 2024 um 15:30 Uhr schrieb Schlamp, Anna-Lena via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I want to model a small priority intersection in Sumo with
FCD output is not recorded for vehicles that are teleporting. See
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Why_Vehicles_are_teleporting.html
Am Fr., 2. Feb. 2024 um 11:40 Uhr schrieb PANDEESWARI INDUMATHI S via
sumo-user :
> TCS Confidential
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running SUMO on Luxembourg scenario. When
see also
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Tools/Output.html#computestoppingplaceusagepy
Am Do., 8. Feb. 2024 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Mirko Barthauer via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hi Florian,
>
>
>
> there is no output which gives you these measures directly. You can use
> the stop output
>
The following ticket discusses mitigation and those might be applied
manually already: https://github.com/eclipse-sumo/sumo/issues/9045
Am Do., 1. Feb. 2024 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Ruud van Gaal via sumo-user <
sumo-user@eclipse.org>:
> Hi Mirko,
>
> SUMO only supporting a constant lane width is
Dear friends and users,
in case you missed the announcement during the SUMO user conference, here
is a gentle reminder that as of today, I will be on a sabbatical until
February 2024. Of course, SUMO development and support will continue in the
meantime. However, please be aware that the temporary
Changing the lateral resolution impacts the spacial accuracy for vehicle
interactions (in a tradeoff for computational time). However, it also is a
source of "noise" or random changes to the simulation state.
At my best guess is, that most of the changes you observe w.r.t to
emergency braking from
Vehicle classes in sumo serve the main purposes of defining access
restrictions. You need to decide whether rickshaws may use the same lanes
as some other class (i.e. bicycle) or may use a custom class (i.e.
custom1). In the latter case you have to manually adapt the access
restrictions in the
There are two approaches to get busses via the osmWebWizard:
- activating "Bus" in the traffic modes selection (those will be random and
the busses will not stop)
- activating the option "Import Public Transport" in the main panel (this
will generated a bus schedule for all bus routes and stops
see
http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-based_Traffic_Measures
Am Mo., 12. Nov. 2018 um 02:46 Uhr schrieb Lorenzo Cano Cesconetto via
sumo-user :
> Is it possible to easily get the average vehicle flow rate for each edge?
> I think it could be a script that reads the
The problem comes from an earlier step because the lon,lat values are
outside the network boundary to begin with (The network covers an area
around lon=-122,lat=37 whereas your lon,lat inputs are widely off the
mark).
It turns out that "CA State Plane NAD83 coordinate" is something differente
Change target fails if the new target cannot be reached from the current
position. This is unrelated to the activation of automatic routing.
Also, automatic routing can be activated for all vehicles by setting the
option --device.rerouting.probability 1
2018-03-20 17:48 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Harper
You can define everything at runtime via TraCI.
2018-03-20 12:21 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Harper :
> Hi Jakob,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the swift response.
>
> For this to work must I have set up the trip before runtime, or can I
> define the trips during runtime and ask the
add it like this (--log and logfile.txt are two separate items):
traci.start([sumoBinary, '-c', os.path.join('data', 'run.sumocfg'),
"--step-length", "0.1", "--duration-log.statistics","--log", "logfile.txt"])
2017-10-31 17:06 GMT+01:00 Sara el hamdani :
> My simulation
5s yellow phase should normally be sufficient.
Please observe the vehicle that is performing emergency braking in the
simulation:
- what is the speed limit on the edge before the traffic light?
- what is the vehicle speed?
- what is the distance of the vehicle to the intersection at the time it
Hello,
- the emergency braking and resulting collisions are explained here:
http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/Safety#Deliberately_causing_collisions.
Observe the simulation to determine whether the braking vehicles are going
to fast (hight speedFactor value) or whether the yellow phases are too
Hello,
fuel consumption also depends on accel/decel and for some models on slope
as well.
For further reading see http://elib.dlr.de/89398/
The source code for the models is in utils/emissions. The core component is
the compute() function of the Helpers* classes.
regards,
Jakob
2017-10-23 6:45
Hello,
command traci.vehicle.setSpeed sets the new desired speed indefinitely. In
order to go back to normal behavior the command setSpeed(vehID, -1) must be
sent.
see http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/TraCI/Change_Vehicle_State
regards,
Jakob
2017-10-20 19:45 GMT+02:00 Santa Maiti
Hello,
Basically what you defined should work. However:
1) WAUT-definitions are only useful if each program runs for more than one
cycle.
If all cycles are distinct you can just put all the phases into a single
long program that covers the whole simulation period.
2) If you use WAUTS and all
Hello,
in revision [25745] M_PI is used consistently.
This should fix your issue.
regards,
Jakob
2017-08-29 20:37 GMT+02:00 Dan Vanderkam via sumo-user <
sumo-u...@lists.sourceforge.net>:
> I'm trying to follow the instructions at Tutorials/PT from OpenStreetMap
>
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