I have been using and testing FreeMarker on Turbine and agreed that
it has better features than WebMacro. And I am willing to test
FM's functionality in Turbine as my project now depends on it.
+1 on continuing FM devel in Turbine.
>I certainly prefer FreeMarker, as it has many more features related to the
>template design. WM seems to have gained its popularity from its
>introspection engine, I am still up in the air on how superior it is over
>FM's simple Hash and List way of setting up the Context. It's seems like a
>big time savings; just throw your business object into the Context and it
>is
>available. But there are generally formatting issues related to visual
>display that are not really appropriate in the business oject. So you end
>up overloading your business objects with display oriented methods or
>duplicating your business objects. If you prefer the first WM is superior.
>If like me, you prefer to create wrapper classes for display formatting, WM
>and FM are fairly equivalent.
>
>As WM lacks many features needed in a template system from the design
>perspective: e.g. simple conditionals like #if (template == "add_user"), it
>can be difficult to use. It would also be nice to have a method to remove
>whitespace.
>
>But, it seems developer interest is with WM. If you can live with its
>limitations you should probably use it. I will continue to develop the FM
>service as long as WM does not meet my needs. It would be nice to try to
>develop some interfaces so that either can be used easy and alot of code
>that is being duplicated could be consolidated. I have that as an item on
>my
>personal todo list, but it is not a high priority.
>
>John McNally
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: William KC Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:04 PM
>Subject: Re: WebMacro Proof of concept...
>
>
> > What about FreeMarker ? Has there been any development on this excellent
> > template system ? I know that John McNally has been the main contributor
> > to this engine. Will this template be supported (in Turbine) in future ?
> > Or am I missing something that all focus is now on WM ?
> >
> > -another non-JSP user
> >
> > >In previous e-mails, its been mentioned that the User admin
> > >inteface will be implemented using the new WebMacro service.
> > >I'd also like to redo the scheduler interface using the new WM and
> > >remove all the older WM stuff.
> > >However, doing this has a couple ramifications to the Turbine setup.
> > >
> > >For Turbine to work out of the box, default.page and the
> > >default.sessionvalidator must be set in the TurbineResources
> > >distibution file to the WebMacroSite service.
> > >Doing the above will probably push new users of Turbine
> > >to use WebMacro and cause current users to reconfigure a few things
> > >when updating to a newer version of Turbine.
> > >
> > >IMO, this forces a change in direction for the Turbine
> > >default presentation mechanism (from ECS to WebMacro).
> > >
> > >Is this a direction we want to move or should we look at a better way
> > >to integrate the two out of the box?
> > >
> > >Either way involves configuration issues/decisions.
> > >
> > >Is a vote in order?
> > >
> > >--
> > >dave
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >-----------------------
> > >"I find it the same with all pleasures within my reach; unless
> > >they cost me nothing, I find them insipid."
> > > Rousseau
> > >
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