At 06:26 PM 1/31/2001 -0800, Ken North wrote:
>Steve,
>Keep the discussion going.... Don't know if you saw this reply in another
>thread.
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Hi Ken! I did see it. It is well written. I think ebXML and UDDI are
good standards and are things that everyone around the world will be able
to use unchanged. i.e. there will not be the variance in standards that I
was talking about. Just like in the X12 world, everyone uses the ISA and
GS enveloping headers exactly the same around the world. ebXML likewise
defines enveloping structures that can be used by all around the world
without change. ebXML and UDDL go further of course and I think they will
be good standards.
All of my comments about variances in established standards are directed
exclusively to the payload. AKA the Business Object, Business Document,
message and in X12 parlance, the "Transaction Set". Competition will always
demand flavors of these established standards. Thus the concept of a world
wide PO is a great idea but is not real world practical and won't happen.
The XML/edi concept of XML data and rules combined that somehow auto
convert to the Partners backend without a programmer mapping and
maintaining this, I think is another great idea that will never
happen. Multiple flavors of a PO in XML because they each contain their
own data with rules will self map somehow?
This is the point of expense in X12 that will carry over to XML/edi. I
have yet to see anything that indicates otherwise.
At 06:26 PM 1/31/2001 -0800, Ken North wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Keep the discussion going.... Don't know if you saw this reply in another
>thread.
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>
>Consider this a reply for both your message and Steve Bollinger's.
>
>It's premature to judge the effect XML/EDI 'had' on eBusiness. That's like
>suggesting in 1906 (three years after Kitty Hawk) that aviation is a flop.
>
>Why? The XML spec was released in 1998. There were some lessons learned in
>the 1999 European XML/EDI Pilot Project, but much of the activity during
>2000 has been focused on creating standards for an eBusiness infrastructure.
>XML Schema is a few months old. Two major eBusiness initiatives (ebXML and
>UDDI) have drawn participation from key players, but they are still infants.
>
>If you're interested in emerging eBusiness technologies, you might want to
>attend ebXML Day or UDDI Day at XML DevCon 2001 in New York City. On April
>9, ebXML instructors will be rolling out the specifications for ebXML
>Registry/Repository, Message Service, and Collaborative (Trading) Partner
>Agreements.
>
>On UDDI Day (April 10), a team of IBM and Microsoft instructors will teach a
>UDDI programming workshop (the APIs, the payload, how to use the IBM and
>Microsoft toolkits, and so on).
>
>Registration for either event (UDDI Day, ebXML Day) is included with the
>Special Events pass. The Special Events pass is free if you pre-register.
>
>There are other eBusiness, ebXML, UDDI classes and workshop in the main
>conference program, so you might want to check that out before deciding to
>attend only the free events. We'll have people such as Peter Chen teaching
>conceptual modeling, Jonathan Robie doing a tutorial on XML Query, Steve
>Melton unveiling SQLX, three of the XML/EDI founders doing an eBusiness
>Workshop, and a workshop on business transformations with XSLT:
>http://www.xmldevcon2001.com/NY/html/conference.php
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