On Tue, 9 May 2000, Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) wrote:
> I could not agree with you more, but in my opinion, news reports like these,
> even though it was very sensational, can help to clean up this scene.
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> So, what I want to know is why promoters do not set age limits on their
> parties. Will it affect the bottom-line that much?
>
I'm with my man Ben here. If I had a 15 year old daughter, I wouldn't
want her going to any of the "underground" raves in Detroit. Getting
exposed to music and culture is great, but getting exposed to nitrous, K,
dirty E, GHB and other sketchy behavior isn't that good for a young
female teen.
Look at Richie Hawtin's recent parties such as Epok. People are still
tripping and rolling, but at least it isn't being done in public, there is
an age limit and he runs things responsibly. He's learned his lessons.
I would have no problem sending my kid to a party if I knew things were
legit. And at most Detroit parties, it's come to the point where the
police are even getting paid off.
Shit, I went to this afterhours club called Jesters two weekends ago,
where policemen in uniform were doing balloons and partying with
strippers! No lie.
The golden era of rave has ODed. Time to bury it and start over.
>
> PS - I also want to know why more people do not support the Detroit's club
> scene more. While everyone was getting busted on Saturday, they missed an
> excellent bust-free night at Science.
>
And Ben's totally on point here also. Sure, there may not be free drugs
being offered at Science, but the club offers the same salient attributes
such as DJs and lights.
And Science even offer things most raves don't such as bathrooms, clean
seating, security, a reasonable admission price, good DJs, safety, water
and the reassuring knowledge that the police aren't going to shut the club
down and beat people in the process.
It just seems logical to me.
Pay $30 to party at the Theater on Harper and Van Dyke or pay $10 to party
at Science. It seems like an easy choice to me.
Also, Shane from Plurkids is a friend of mine, and this is by no means a
dis on him. I just think people are tripping on these rave/news stories
for the wrong reasons.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane from PLURkids [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 10:49 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Online petition at
> http://www.petitiononline.com/plur/petition.html
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>
> Hi all,
>
>
> This last weekend in Detroit it was like 1515 Broadway all over again.
> Mid-week there had been another one of those "look where your children are
> at on saturday night!" reports on the news. Of course, it was just like
> years ago - a promoter had called the news complaining of how they wanted to
>
> "clean up the scene". Then they rented a space that they thought was
> bust-proof, and proceeded to throw a party with tight security and 500 free
> tickets. It backfired in their face and of course the cops arrived with the
> news in tow. Multiple kids were beaten on site by the Highland Park Police,
> and the newspeople witnessed this but did not report it.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Either way, we want to at least have a chance to speak about the things that
>
> make rave culture special to us. The news reports are always
> sensationalistic and driven by ratings - this we grudgingly accept as the
> way it is - but it would be nice to be heard at all, even within that
> context. Please help us find a voice amongst all the yelling.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane
> PLURkids Productions
> Info 734.913.9672
> www.plurkids.com
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