>Look at Richie Hawtin's recent parties such as Epok. People are still >tripping and rolling, but at least it isn't being done in public, there is >an age limit and he runs things responsibly. He's learned his lessons.
I understand your point here and I don't want to go too far off into some other worthless flame-rant, but in Rich's defense: he always has had a, not exactly pristine, but at least a very mature perspective on this. Anyone remember Chocolate Cake? The 'lessons' he learned were jammed down his throat - he himself understood where to draw the line a long time ago.
