I've never seen Kempster's book but I think the notion that Juan
'invented' Chicago house is a distortion of what he said in an article
rather famous in these precincts, namely Simon Trask's December
1988 interview, in which Juan also mentions the (in)famous DS/DD
battle.

http://www.mobeus.org/archives/juanatkins/

Now then, if you want a controversial Juan Atkins quote,
how about this one:

    In this country it's very hard for creative thought
    to escape capitalism.

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/publicity/juan_atkins/interview.html

I appreciate Juan Atkins not only for his pioneering role in techno
and popular electronic music generally, but because he has been
a steady voice all these years for a humanistic approach to making
music rather than a totally commercialized one.  That said, as Juan
himself has noted, it's pretty much impossible now to make a living
off of recordings, so I wish him and the rest of Model 500 good fortune
on their live gigs.

fh

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>I was thinking specifically of the book History of House by Chris Kempster
>(which collects older interviews).
>
>My email sounded a little harsher than I intended ;-) I'm just saying it's
>good now that there's some healthy debate!
>
>
>Fred Heutte wrote:
>>> Juan has even claimed that he invented Chicago house music.
>>
>>
>> Source for that?
>>
>> fh
>>
>> -----------------
>>>I agree. Most of us weren't there. It's very easy to accept the story as
>>>told by British music journalists that there were only a couple of major
>>>players, but history is always messier than that. There were dozens of
>>> DJs
>>>and musicians all doing similar things to varying degrees of success
>>>throughout the Midwest.
>>>
>>>Juan has even claimed that he invented Chicago house music. As important
>>>as he is to the history of music, I take what he says "with a grain of
>>>salt."
>>>
>>>J
>>>
>>>
>>>mistamuthaf...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> In the end it is the victor who gets to write the history book...So the
>>>> story that gets told will probably look and feel a bit different than
>>>> what
>>>> actually happened.  I would take it with a grain of salt considering
>>>> Eddie's side of the story.
>>>>
>>>> I am leaning toward Eddie, Derrick, and Juan all being there at the
>>>> same
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>> From: Fred Heutte
>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Nov 26, 2009 6:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Did anyone stick around to see the comments on Dan
>>>> Bean's interview with Juan?
>>>>
>>>> Of course we've always known that the D in Detroit stands for
>>>> Drama :)
>>>>
>>>> It's a revealing series of comments.  I get the impression there is
>>>> still something of a mini-generation gap.  There are those who built
>>>> the party scene in the early 1980s when DD was the undisputed
>>>> flagship, and high level of DJ skills and all the party trappings are
>>>> rightfully points of pride.  And there are those who came in later
>>>> who were starting to focus more on making tracks as well as DJing.
>>>>
>>>> But there was a disappointing series of hits on Juan, which at least
>>>> got a corrective from Mike Clark's precise recounting of the
>>>> battle-that-couldn't-have-happened.
>>>>
>>>> I look through the list of commenters and see so many people who
>>>> contrbuted to the music that we have all been able to appreciate.
>>>> There is nothing unusual about competition in a musical context,
>>>> and all the resentments that build up in a local music scene, well,
>>>> that's always going to happen.  It's just too bad that respect was
>>>> so hard to earn then, and still is today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------
>>>>>Wow... what a series of comments!!!  My entire understanding of the
>>>>>history timeline has shifted...
>>>>>
>>>>>and my favorite part is that Juan says he and Derrick were working
>>>>>together first before Eddie joined the crew...  Eddie is so full of
>>>>>it, he's always saying he came before Derrick and that he should get
>>>>>more credit than Derrick, but Juan says right in the interview that
>>>>>Derrick was first...  classic!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>~Jodie
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hoo boy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2009/10/4/juan-atkins-interview-part-one.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments from Todd Johnson of Direct Drive, Delano Smith, Theresa
>>>>>> Hill, Al Ester, and Mike Clark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently they took some exception to some of the stuff Juan said...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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