Are we doing interdictions? If so; Greetings. My name is Joe Marougi and my artist name is Joe Babylon.
I founded the Plug Research label back in 1994 with my friend and dj partner Allen Avanessian. I used to hire Detroit artists to play at parties in Los Angeles back in the mid 90’s as an attempt to create more awareness for the sound (plus I was a big fan so I enjoyed it). I started another (vinyl) label in 2010 called Roundabout Sounds and have put out releases/tracks/remixes with the likes of Wilhite, Wade, Huck, Grant and the last ever track from Aaron-Carl. “I’m very happy to be here!” (said in Prince Akeem’s voice) On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:49 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think that the answer to the questions Denise raised is feeling > bad about being white. My own answer is to try and be conscious about how > being a white person (in the US or Germany or wherever) means that you > don't experience what people of color (and minority cultures/communities in > general) live with, day to day. Being a good ally (and this goes for men > with respect to women, LGBTQIA+ as well) means listening, not centering > yourself in the discourse, and above all, not being a schmuck. > > The vitality of Detroit Techno (and this is also true of Jazz and Blues, > also original art forms that originated with people of color) is that even > as a music by and for black people, it is about an inclusive world, a > vision of what the world could be. Personally, as a big dumb white guy, I > have always cherished the welcome I've gotten in Detroit. Techno comes > from people of color, and there's a whole political and cultural context > for it, but it has never been exclusionary. The strong connection between > musicians in Detroit and Berlin is an example of how this works. And even > the most Afrocentric people in techno, like Underground Resistance, has > never been about excluding white people. Mad Mike is famous for taking > visitors from overseas and giving them the full Detroit Pride tour. > > As for a white woman narrating the Drexciya video, that's pretty far down > my list of what's problematic about it. For better or (often) worse, RA is > a bunch of white people selling dance music to white people. That is the > context of that narrator's voice. > > The paradox of black cultural movements -- Techno, Hip Hop, Jazz, Blues > etc -- is that it is dependent on the majority culture -- i.e. mostly white > -- to support it, because they are the ones with the numbers money. > Remaining true to that culture without diluting it is always a challenge, > among all the other challenges to being an artist. > > And by blathering on in this forum, perhaps I'm violating my own > prescription by centering myself. So now I'll shut up. > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 6:45 AM Ronny Pries (rktic) <ronnypr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello new'- and old'sters. >> >> Was just wondering if I ever „properly" introduced myself here. Apart >> from „Hi, I’m Ronny. I like Techno.“ >> >> The recent Drexciya thread, articles and thoughts made me think. You >> know, I’m a caucasian, born and raised around Hamburg/Germany. Hence my >> personal experience of being a victim of racism is about zero. Then again, >> being a german, you’ve got to reflect about these things. Imho. >> >> Crap, this is awkward. I have no concept about what it feels like to be >> historically oppressed because of the color of skin. Neither was I raised >> in economical circumstances as close as those found in Detroit. The weight >> or burden of that combination I can at best try to imagine or feel. This is >> a tough topic for a cultural ‚bystander‘ wanting to approach it in the most >> respectful way possible. >> >> What I do have a personal experience with: >> Living with Angst or anxiety if you will. Being risen to function, >> showing good manners on the surface. Avoid looking inside by any means. >> Getting a good whack of post-WW2 parenting. >> >> For long I thought Techno mainly appealed to me because my parents didn’t >> get it. But that’s not an emotional response, right. What I found in Techno >> was a strong sense of place. Where I was allowed to breathe, think and >> feel. True freedom. >> >> So, I’m aware that if I say „I kinda get it“ it’s still lacking cultural >> background. Yet, where can one draw a line? And can anyone relate at all? >> >> Just thinking out loud >> Ronny >> >> >> >> Am 22.10.2018 um 03:08 schrieb Edward Thompson <ed313...@gmail.com>: >> >> 😂 >> >> >> On Mon., 22 Oct. 2018, 10:51 am Aidan O'Doherty, < >> aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Bloody hell, what's with all the traffic? You wait ages on a bus, then >>> all of a sudden loads of 313s arrive! >>> >>> Welcome aboard, Matt Deegan. This list has been a desert of discourse >>> for a very long time, until the last few days. >>> >>> My name is Aidan O'Doherty, from Dublin, Ireland. I am simply an >>> electronic music fan, an erstwhile record collector (used to have an >>> extensive collection, mostly sold) and hobbyist DJ who loves a lot of >>> techno/house music that has and still comes out of Detroit or is clearly >>> inspired by the city. >>> >>> I have been on this list for 18 or 19 years and have never unsubscribed >>> despite the serious drought in content over the last few years. >>> >>> I am usually a lurker, therefore not aiding with content, but did >>> inspire a poll years ago (top five Detroit tracks) that Delsin's Marsel van >>> der Wielen put on the NoMoreWords site (everyone's individual choices were >>> kept there), which is gone now, or rather, transformed. >>> >>> Most of the communications on the list are civil (not always in the >>> past), don't remember much in the way of racism, but my memory could be >>> selective. Denise, feel free to call me a potato-eating, alcoholic Paddy >>> anytime you want, I won't be offended, because it's all true. >>> >>> Glad to see names popping up again that I haven't heard from in ages. >>> >>> Yours in music, >>> Aidan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat 20 Oct 2018, 13:02 , <denisedalph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Introductions. >>>> >>>> I’m Denise Dalphond. I wrote my dissertation on Detroit techno and >>>> house music in 2014 after spending three years doing research and >>>> conducting interviews with techno kings and queens in Detroit. I write >>>> about music and activism at schoolcraftwax.work. I’ve published a lot >>>> about Detroit electronic music. My CV is on my website. >>>> >>>> In 2006, I organized and led the Roots of Techno conference at Indiana >>>> University. Panelists were Theo Parrish, Terrence Parker, Rick Wilhite, >>>> Marcellus Pittman, Minx, Mike Clark, Cornelius Harris, and two rad people >>>> from the Detroit Historical Museum. >>>> >>>> The Archives of African American Music and Culture at Indiana >>>> University is where the video recordings of the conference are housed, as >>>> well as my research materials and interview recordings. >>>> >>>> I was co-founder if the Detroit Sound Conservancy with Carleton Gholz. >>>> Together, we hosted educational tours of Submerge, created the Dan Sicko >>>> scholarship for new Detroit journalists, and made plans for cultural >>>> preservation in Detroit music culture. >>>> >>>> I often make sure no one is being racist, but that’s been near >>>> impossible on this listserv. They think I’ll stop. >>>> >>>> I don’t make music because my time is full with my three kids and >>>> everything else. I’m not a DJ because I would forget and start dancing and >>>> make the needle jump. I do want to play on a modular synth someday. >>>> >>>> Thanks for joining this listserv! >>>> Denise Dalphond >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 07:38, Matt Deegan <matt.i.dee...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> With that in mind I reckon I should introduce myself. >>>> >>>> My name is Matt Deegan and I'm an electronic music producer from the UK >>>> with a focus on techno. I've been involved in music in various forms over >>>> the years starting as a jazz double bassist and more recently moving to >>>> techno, using analogue electronic gear to produce on. I specialise in >>>> improvised electronic music trying hard to tastefully fuse elements of jazz >>>> into my sound. >>>> >>>> I've become interested in the origins of techno and so started reading >>>> books on and around the subject, and through that reading I found >>>> Hyperreal. I think there is a large proportion of techno fans who have no >>>> idea where or how it started, or are misinformed. I was definitely one of >>>> them, and, although I still have a lot to learn, I now feel I have some >>>> grounding in how it all began. I'm really interested in learning more and >>>> this feels like a decent place to do it so. Any resources people can >>>> recommend will be greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> As I said I am interested in understanding the origins of the music, >>>> but at the same time I am also interested in supporting musicians trying to >>>> push the boundaries of the genre. I am a schooled jazz musician and >>>> composer and, although I am passionate about the music, I'm still trying to >>>> wrap my head around exactly why I love it so much. There is something >>>> fundamental within it I can't quite put my finger on which intrigues me. >>>> Before I started reading about techno's history I though my musical journey >>>> was unusual, but have since realised it isn't as unusual as I thought. This >>>> realisation has helped me focus my sound and produce the work I'm most >>>> proud of, which proves to me understanding the history of the music is >>>> extremely important. >>>> >>>> I could probably ramble on all day on the subject, but I'll leave it >>>> there. There are links below to my stuff if anyone is interested, otherwise >>>> I look forward to your reading what you write. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> ------------ >>>> I work under the pseudonym Epistrophe Smith, here's some links to my >>>> stuff... >>>> Main site: www.epsmith.net >>>> An online ambient music project using an algorithm to never be the same >>>> twice: http://neverendingalbum.myl2mr.com >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 1:15 AM kent williams <chaircrus...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For some reason we've had a bunch of new subscribers. I guess that is >>>>> a challenge to us old timers to, uh, generate some compelling content. >>>>> >>>> >>
