I think 99% of the "degredation of this list" is because we've "ruled"
ourselves into a corner. And a boring, humorless corner at that. Poeple are
so afraid of not kowtowing to every 313 standard (expressed and implied)
that the creativity of posts has steadily decreased to a handful of
cookie-cutter topics that get recycled every two months. I can't remember a
a day when I DIDN'T see three posts begging forgiveness for being "off
topic" or not relevant enough. It's not good to have the list spiraling out
of control with off-topic conversation, but maybe we need to take the
blinders off sometimes.
Simply put, this list has a stick up its ass.
flame on...
Perhaps you don't understand my rigidity because you haven't seen the
degradation of this list. There used to be quite informative discussions
and thoroughly enlightening posts. Now the list is compromised of
playlists, track spams for mp3.com, and top ten lists. I now have to sort
through 100's of posts just to receive the content I wish to read.
So you see the 'no spam' rule was put in place to ensure content, and not
advertisement.
Sorry to have missed a good spam discussion, if I could have said this all
earlier I would have.
Cheers
> i have read the 313 statement plenty of times and it seems quite
flexible > and open to interpretation to me. so i am surprised that anyone
would be so > rigid about it and preach that rigidity to fellow 313
members. > in fact the general feeling i get from the list is that there
are more who > approve of Mr Blochs (and others) ghastly sins then there
are who > disapprove. > you may disagree Todd, but if Mr Atkins, Mills or
May posted a link to free > mp3s i do not think you would be so quick to
complain. > > if you missed the discussion recently about this spam topic
you should go > thru the archives and if you were not so trigger-happy with
the delete key > you may not have sore fingers and you wouldn't have missed
last weeks > ***discussion*** in the first place. > > i wonder if the
people complaining make music themselves? > > also while we are on topic, i
found some great music online which i > definitely think pushes techno
forward. > www.mp3.com/bloch has some brilliant music which may be
difficult to > ***discuss*** if we never got to hear it. > > > -----
Original Message ----- > From: Todd Smith > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent:
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) >
> > > Trust me there is no lack of passion to hear new music, if only I
could > cut > > down on hitting that delete key on off topic posts I could
do a little > more > > listening and a lot less deleting. The off topic
hysteria as you like to > > dramaticize it as is caused by multiple
subscriptions to different lists > (at > > least in my case). Older list
members may have different reasons. I have > 4 > > jobs (including Dj'ing)
and work a tremendous amount. I joined 313 for > 313 > > content not spam.
I could post a million record reviews (I work for a > local > > paper), and
could tell you what I got on vinyl this week (I work at a > record > >
store as well), but I don't because for the most part it is not 313 >
related. > > Please read the 313 statement at www.hyperreal.org > > > >
todd > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kao Jyan" > > To: "313"
<313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:28 AM > >
Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) > > > > > > > i'm sure someone has
mentioned this already, but the general consensus a > > few > > > weeks ago
was that directing others to good FREE music on the web (even > if > > > it
is your own) is not that terrible a crime. > > > i don't know if you are
just feeling grumpy today or if you have a > > personal > > > grudge
against Christian but even if you hate his music i hope you are > not > > >
saying it is not 313 related cause you may cause a riot. > > > i always
want to hear new music, your post gives me the impression you > may > > >
not share this passion. > > > > > > there are plenty of 313 posts that i am
not interested in although i > like > > to > > > read them all but i am
surprised at the lack of tolerance some 313 > members > > > are displaying
with their "off topic" hysteria. > > > > > > (also i know this is not a
Drum & Bass list, a Garth Brooks list or even > > the > > > Shopping
Network in case anyone thinks i don't, i understand there are > > other > >
> lists elsewhere i would just like to see a little more patience) > > > >
> > anyway, back on topic ; ) what Jay Denham stuff would anyone recommend
> to > > a > > > BC/CR/Ratio/Hood/Pacou fan? > > > > > > kao jyan > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Todd Smith > > >
To: <313@hyperreal.org> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 12:44 PM > >
> Subject: Re: [313] (even more spam) > > > > > > > > > > Last I checked
313 had a policy about spam, and need of 313 content. > I > > > > didn't
join this list for a bunch of artists to throw tracks up online > > and > >
> > advertise in my inbox. It was fine for the plus8 contest because that
> > was > > > > at least 313 related, however this is just a bit over the
deepend. If > > > > specific people have asked you for tracks, then email
them personally, > > > leave > > > > the list for all things 313. > > > > >
> > > Sorry to be picky, but the title of Christian's post says it all > >
> > todd > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Christian
Bloch" > > > > To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > > > > Sent: Tuesday,
November 21, 2000 2:29 AM > > > > Subject: [313] N E W Track Online (even
more spam) > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Prototyping Cycle" is available for
download at > www.mp3.com/bloch/ - > > > > dubby > > > > > stabs and more.
I can't really figure out how fond of the track I am > > > > myself, > > >
> > hope you will like it though... > > > > > > > > > > peace > > > > > >
> > > > Christian Bloch > > > > > www.mp3.com/bloch > > > > >
Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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