Why does "creative DJing" only have to revolve around tricks, wouldn't mixing three tables for five minutes simultaneously while doing effects yield something totally different that what the artist intended? And I will further that by saying that I think that's more creative than "juggling a 30 second area of dopeness in an other wise useless record" because they (the one juggling this area of a record) are doing nothing to that area of dopeness, aside from elongating it, or perhaps shuffling it, however, its still the same. Again, if you take a house record, an old acid record, and a techno record, mix them at the same time and ride it while screwing around with the reverb, a totally different song will come out of the speakers, and I mean it can be totally different with the physics of audio and such...
I guess what I am saying is why take cuts and snips of other sources when you could just mush 'em together to reveal a new source?? darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dale Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [313] digital > Much of the vaunted 'creative DJ'ing' is largely a phenomenon of the past. > Producers make records that are made for DJs, so the only real skill > required is beat matching. That's why any tracks I do for vinyl will > have mixin, track, and mixout sections. If I don't do that, I'll pay > the price in record sales. > > Creative DJ'ing was largely a product of DJs manipulating records that > were made for radio or home listening in ways that made them work in > the club context. While this isn't yet a completely lost art (watch > Terrence spin some time), younger dj's often have no concept of finding > 30 seconds of dopeness on an otherwise unsuitable record and working it > for 5 minutes with doubles. > > Turtablists like the X Men or Cut Chemist still operate in this mode. > Cut Chemist in particular is the master of working with flea market > vinyl to make something new. > > I'm not saying that there aren't 'modern' DJs that don't show some > serious creativity in what they do. Steve Lammers' mixtape has made > the rounds in Iowa City and everyone here loves the way he drags in > unlikely sources for effects. Claude Young is capable of amazing > things. And Carlos Souffront deserves to be a star for the way he > pulls things into a set. > > But there's a lot of know-nothing kids who give themselves way more credit > than they're due. If all you're doing is playing records, don't get so > full of yourself. > > kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://jump.to/cornwarning -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label > http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
