Kieran wrote:_________________________________
> Has anyone ever produced any double vinyls of the same track with a1 being
a particular track and c1 being the same track, but with the inverted phase
wave? When both a1 and c1 are perfectly mixed, the inverted and normal waves
should totally cancel each other out, and there should be (in theory)
complete silence. Yet, as soon as they are pitch shifted/slightly out of
phase, then the tune(s) should jump in. Just wondering, it would be an
interesting experiment.
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Unfortunately this only works under extremely controlled situations ie.
perfectly noiseless mixing console with no pre-amp, truely matched needles,
noiseless, distortionless amp with no pre or post digital amplification.

More on the topic of toneshifting (actually a physics term coined long
before darw_n).

Toneshifting in the darw_nian sense, could be explained or perpetuated in
two ways:

1.  Take sense enhancing drugs

This will enhance your senses such that any reverberations from the room you
are in, along with the mindless chatter of  hundreds of people will
construct interesting new wave forms for your ears.

2. Be in a small group of people in a large auditory space, and stand at the
extremities of the soundspace.

Up close to the system you will find your ears drums lock up and sound
transmits through you (you are in fact standing before waveforms of up to
3000 Hz can form, therefore you only hear a small portion of them (resonant
form)  and then any reverberation of that sound.  Away from the system you
will hear more tones as waveforms cycle fully before hitting you, but they
also reverberate of other walls and such, enhancing your experience with all
sorts of phantom sounds (ie. music reverberating off of pipes and stages
etc.)

I spent a long time thinking about the "mental projection" aspect of
darw_n's theory, but this is nothing new.  We have been mentally projecting
on music since we were born.  Point in case  John Coltrane's "Blue Train":

I have a friend who used to listen to this album in the morning when he woke
up, and he said it was the best way to wake up, it refreshed and invigored
him, while I listened to this album fully through a break-up, and it makes
me sad to hear it all the time.

As for Richie playing emotionless music, this isn't true at all, he's simply
not playing soulful music ergo your friends comment 'Richie has no soul'.
Listen to DEFX909 again, there are tonnes of get up and party tracks on
there as well as a fair amount of moody music.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kieran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [313] tone shifting


> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Kent williams wrote:
>
> ] In the context of DJ-ing, tone-shifting is what happens when you mix
> ] two records and new music emerges from the the interference between
> ] the two tracks.  It's a real phenomenon -- if you combine two signals
> ] they can interfere with each other -- technically 'phase cancellation'
> ] such that new tones become audible.
>
> This question is a little diverged from this topic, but when talking about
> phase varience and "interference", I have the following question:
>

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