hmmm funny :
He's still the man where if you want to pass him you'll have to go through
the guy
I doubt the locked groove stigma
or maybe he was the first to do it on purpose but even that I doubt
but jeff being inspiring that's for sure
But If I maybe so free !
how bout dreams ? mr oldham
have you got your house at the beach ?
or did you you move the beach to your house :)
Still love the artwork
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [313] JEFF MILLS-MARCH 1
>
> In a message dated 2/2/01 9:57:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << > Re: the ongoing debate about Jeff's mixing skills, he is one of the
most
> > innovative electronic music talents of the 20th Century. Until you all
> invent
> > an entire sub-genre of techno music (lock-grooved, loop techno) and a
host
> of
> > imitators, you need to keep your criticisms to yourselves.
>
> err, no i don't.
>
> That's your right. God Bless America !
>
> see, that's the whole thing about opinions. each person's is as valid as
> the next, be they innovator, inventor, or first-time listener.
>
> Ever been to a movie you didn't like? Better yet, ever seen a movie
> billed as "innovative" or "a classic" that you didn't like?
>
> "Blair Witch" filled that bill.
>
> I highly doubt you've directed a feature-length motion picutre which has
> recieved
> national distribution. Yet I bet you'd feel free (as a bird) to voice your
> opinion if you thought a movie was crap.
>
> Well, the thing is, not only did I major in Radio-TV-Film at Wayne State,
a
> classmate of mine from those days is now a film professor at USC (and had
a
> co-writing credit on the film "The Wood" as well as a cameo) and my best
> friend in LA is a screenwriter and former assistant to John Singleton
("Boyz
> N The Hood"). That same friend has been telling me for years I should come
> out to LA and storyboard (because *snicker* I can draw too). Plus, I'm a
> published writer (Mixer, Psycomic.com). Not film criticism, granted, but I
> could probably do that too if given the chance. Plus I used to know Elvis
> Mitchell (New York Times or The Voice film critic, can't remember which)
when
> he lived in Detroit ! We got our comics from the same place. Great analogy
!
> Next.
>
> The whole idea of having to pay some sort of unattainable dues before
> you're entitled to voice any sort of criticism is ridiculous. You may be
> ALAN OLDHAM,
>
> You're damn right I am. HA !
>
> but your position as a figure of some importance in the
> detroit scene
>
> Hmmm, the jury's still out, there ! I think Sean Deason is more important
> than I am. He played DEMF =)
>
> doesn't place your opinion above any of ours. if you'd like
> to start a dialogue where we discuss Jeff Mills's current performances in
> relation to his past works, I'll be more than glad to participate. But
> hovering in the background and coming out to tell us all to shut up just
> doesn't work.
>
> Sure it does. Are you out here doing better mixes than Jeff ? Making
better
> records ? The whole idea of this thing is DIY. Anyway, if folks can get on
> here and criticize, then I can critique the critics. A vicious cycle, but
> then, this is a free country. Supposedly.
>
> Aside: I have been working my a** off in the studio and DJing, and my GF
has
> been fwd'ing me posts from 313 and it's been so interesting I decided to
> resub for awhile. Aren't you glad ? Blame her !
>
> AND to the person who asked what lock-groove, loop (aka "bangin") techno
is,
> the first record ever with lock grooves was Jeff Mills "Cycle 30" on Axis.
> This release and others from Mills ("Live at the Liquid Room", "Waveform
> Transmissions") single-handedly inspired the entire early sound of British
> and Swedish Techno (Surgeon, Regis, Oliver Ho, James Ruskin, Marco Carola,
> Adam Beyer, etc.)
>
> AND, Misstress Barbara banged the living s*** out of Motor tonight.
>
> AND, I got to hang out briefly with my hero, the genius of modern music,
> Stacey Pullen (who was also off tonight).
>
> a.
>
> =================================================================
> DJ T-1000 "The Last DJ On Earth" Mix CD March 2001. "Hyper-Stylized Life"
> vinyl EP May 2001 from Pure Sonik. Alan D. Oldham "The Sexy Adventures of
> Orietta St. Cloud" full-color comic and soundtrack CD from Tresor Berlin
> (release TBA). This is Pure Sonik Records. www.puresonikrecords.net
>
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