From: "John Osselaer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] DEMF vs. Woodstock
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:05:53 +0200
Listen, I've never seen a party get so out of hand than that edition of
Woodstock about, what?, two years ago? Man, what was that all about? If
this
kinda thing would happen on a dance event like for instance Dance Valley in
Holland (60.000 visitors and one of the best in Europe, lots of 'cheese'
though) I wouldn't even considering going back. The footage we got to see
here about that Woodstock edition seemed totally out of this world. At
least
for a music event. Don't get started about European soccer madness because
that's another story I don't get. Sometimes the wrong people get drawn to
phenomena and that... brings us back to Ford.
John, getting involved again now he had internet by cable, out
From: christos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
CC: pk what? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [313] DEMF vs. Woodstock
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:30:06 -0400 (EDT)
(313kids, I sent this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and thought that you guys might be
interested to, if you are as bored as I am.)
Someone posted eralier about comparing the two events. Here is what I
think of the two (let me know if this format fucks up):
DEMF Woodstock
Attendence: 1.5 million (though this 500,000
was the 3 day total, so
like if you went 3 days
you were counted twice.
I believe on the last
day alone though, the count
was 750,000, so like we
know that at least that
many DIFFERENT people
were there)
Location: Heart Plaza: Detroit, MI Some farm: Bethel, NY
The Crowd: To quote a DPD officer, Hippies.
"this crowd is soo cool
diffrent: and its the most
diverse I have ever seen."
(we all remember the old
lady getting down to James
Brown, and the dude with
the jesus sign, that was
boppin to the beats)
Music: Electronic Music: the MOST Rock, and shitty folk: Not even
popular music IN THE WORLD the most popular music in the
US (RnB is now #1) as its
popularity is RAPIDLY declining
in most of the western world
(and never really got *that*
popular in the rest of the
world). Though it was THE
music of that generation.
# o' artists: 70 32
importance: The first ever large scale Taken from a woodstock site*:
event that, celebrates the "True believers call Woodstock
worlds most popular music the capstone of an era devoted
in the city where it all to human advancement. Cynics
began. Also the first time say it was a fitting,
that the city of Detroit rediculous end to an era of
had a large scale cultural naivete. Then there are those
event that had blacks, who say it was just a hell of a
whites, hispanics, rich, party...For four days, the site
poor, homosexual, hetero, became a countercultural mini-
suburban, inner city, blue nation in which minds were
collar, white collar, etc. open, drugs were all but legal
partying TOGETHER (this is and love was 'free.'"
a BIG DEAL for Detroit, as
well as an odd occurence in
the US in general).
Drugs: Drugs were there, but open Have you ever heard a Woodstock
usage was not very common story that wasnt about
drugs? (sorry this is turning
into a "its all about the music
y0!" post)
* source: http://www.discoverynet.com/~barnes/wsrprnt1.htm
Basically, I think that Woodstock *might* have been the biggest event in
the states, though its significance and influence is decrasing at rapid
rates. As a HUGE fan of rock (especially Metal) and blues, I can honestly
say that in the last few years, Rock And Roll is DYING. The alternative
explosion in the early 90s was very cool, as the counterculture of rock
resurfaced but recently, pop, rNb, and commercial rap and hip hop have
been FAR more commerically sucessful.
Electronic dance music, on the other hand, can be heard in just about
every somewhat developed country in the world, and is continuing to grow.
The significance of a HUGE electronic music event on a global scale is far
more significant than a rock equivalent, ESPECIALLY when you factor in the
fact that the event was located at the city of the music's birth. (Rock
was "born" in cleveland btw.)
I'm just ranting now, arent I? Sorry. I am bored at work.
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