Todd and others I hate to burst the bubble but: bad brains, scream and countless other DC hardcore and punk bands for the early to mid 80s put out records with a strong cross pollination of hardcore/punk and reggea/ska influnces on their records. In fact scream (dave grols frist band befor he went off to play for nirvana) but out a record on some reggea label from jamacia back in the mid 80s. So I think the regeea thing was always there oh wait we are also forgetting the ultimate punk/reggea/ska combo the slits and the ruts dc.... we all know about the slits Im sure but the Ruts were so influnced by reggea that they allowed adrian sherwood to remix dub versions of thier records. just a few cents thrown onto the fire... Neil..
>>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:52 AM >>Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> >> >> > Somebody wrote: >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks >>primary >> > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back >>full >> > circle. >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you >>Iggy >> > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the >>message >> > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms >>and >> > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk >>cross >> > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit >>the >> > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd >> > really like to know where you got this idea. >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:59:46 +0100 >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "Nick Hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>the clash, specials, buzzcocks were influnced buy reggae and dub but thats >london. > >The Buzzcocks are from Manchester, and while Britain is small it can and >often does make a difference. > >Nick Hardie > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:58:21 +0000 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "M Elliot-Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Well, I didn't write the below statement but I know that the Clash worked >with Lee Perry and if you listen to Stiff Little Fingers you'd have to say >they were most certainly influenced by reggae. But then I'm talking about UK >punk bands because US punk was a throw back to blues and rockabilly. Before >the hardcore punk came along that is. > >MEK > >>From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >>Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:52:05 -0400 >> >>Somebody wrote: >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks >>primary >>influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full >>circle. >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy >>Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message >>they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and >>sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk >>cross >>pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the >>scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd >>really like to know where you got this idea. >> >>Cheers >>todd >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:42:41 -0400 (EDT) >To: Mike Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: carlos h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >buzzcocks at saint andrews hall 1996. now that was a show. > >carlos > >On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Mike Taylor wrote: > >> >> buzzcocks were from manchester. >> >> punk trainspotting on the 313 list, I own you all. :) >> >> mt >> >> >> >> >From: "Scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: "Scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:48:58 -0400 >> > >> >the clash, specials, buzzcocks were influnced buy reggae and dub but thats >> >london. not sure about detroit. >> >guns of brixton is a jam! >> >scotto >> >ps Can was one of the buzzcocks biggest influences. >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >> >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:52 AM >> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> > >> > >> > > Somebody wrote: >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks >> >primary >> > > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back >> >full >> > > circle. >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > >> > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you >> >Iggy >> > > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the >> >message >> > > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms >> >and >> > > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk >> >cross >> > > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit >> >the >> > > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd >> > > really like to know where you got this idea. >> > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:17:53 -0500 >To: carlos h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I think I recall seeing them in either 1979 or 1980 at Bookies Club 870. >THAT is where the punk scene emerged in Detroit and *those* were THE days. > jef > >At 11:42 PM 8/24/2001, you wrote: >>buzzcocks at saint andrews hall 1996. now that was a show. >> > >> > buzzcocks were from manchester. >> > >> > punk trainspotting on the 313 list, I own you all. :) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:13:35 -0500 >To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "myster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Going back even further, I would think America's first mainstream >introduction to reggae would be through Led Zeppelin's "D'yer Maker", what >was that 73'? > >just a thought......I know it's not really reggae, but the influences are >undeniable, and once again the British gave us something nice. > >> errr...didnt reggae and its dub 'versions' come after the whole rock >> steady/ska thing? >> >> > From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:52:05 -0400 >> > To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >> > Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> > >> > Somebody wrote: >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks >primary >> > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back >full >> > circle. >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you >Iggy >> > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the >message >> > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms >and >> > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk >cross >> > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit >the >> > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd >> > really like to know where you got this idea. >> > >> > Cheers >> > todd >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:37:34 -0500 >To: "myster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Not even. You'd have to back further than that - 1969, I think, to >Desmond Dekker & The Aces' top ten hit "The Israelites". Remember also that >in those days, "mainstream" was considered the AM radio format and FM was >for your more "underground" tastes in general (although by 1973 this was >already changing, in 1969 this was definitely the case). > jeff > >At 10:13 AM 8/25/2001, myster wrote: >>Going back even further, I would think America's first mainstream >>introduction to reggae would be through Led Zeppelin's "D'yer Maker", what >>was that 73'? >> >>j > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:58:51 -0500 >To: "myster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >One further addendum : Johnny Nash had a few singles out in the late >60s/early 70s with a reggae flavor and popchart success stateside as well. >"I Can See Clearly Now" was resurrected later for a Windex (window cleaner) >commercial. I think his cover of Marley's "Stir it Up" made a dent in the >charts here as well. I know it was an UK hit. > jeff > >At 11:37 AM 8/25/2001, Mxyzptlk wrote: >>Not even. You'd have to back further than that - 1969, I think, to >>Desmond Dekker & The Aces' top ten hit "The Israelites". Remember also >>that in those days, "mainstream" was considered the AM radio format and FM >>was for your more "underground" tastes in general (although by 1973 this >>was already changing, in 1969 this was definitely the case). >> jeff >> >> >> >>At 10:13 AM 8/25/2001, myster wrote: >>>Going back even further, I would think America's first mainstream >>>introduction to reggae would be through Led Zeppelin's "D'yer Maker", what >>>was that 73'? >>> >>>j >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:36:56 -0400 >To: "Scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "Graeme Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Possibly in Japanese (with some German and English mixed in? ) Damo Suzuki >was Can's vocalist at that time... > >Faust were cited as a major influence by John Lydon and Jah Wobble. Their >experimental studio work was equally as ahead of its time as what Can were >doing with beats. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Scotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:07 PM >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > >> you can not forget Can! >> they were making some very forward music in the late 60's. >> holger czukay is still producing >> >> there is a remix album with a carl craig remix of future days. most of the >> remixes are jungle. the black radio and steve shelly rmx is my favorite. >> >> scotto >> ps. tago mago is my favorite. oh yea is a crazy tune. anyone know what >> language it is in? I've always suspected the backwards vocal. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:38:51 -0400 >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "Graeme Roche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Once saw a great (BBC? C4?) documentary on dub. Lee Perry was asked why he >had a toaster attached to the front gate of his house and responded "because >I am a toaster"...amused me no end.... > >> "Toasters" >> >> I remember seeing the mighty Jah Shaka play singing "I am a toaster" for >> about 60 minutes....and then collapse. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: 'seth redmond' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:05 AM >> Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> >> >> > ahhh 'toasters'. i havnt heard that word for yonks!! >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: seth redmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:59 AM >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >> > > Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >> > > >> > > I think what a lot of Europeans don't realise is how little Reggae and >> Dub >> > > permeated America at all. Apart from a little Wailers, Jimmy Cliff and >> > > latterly Yellowman and Beenieman there wasn't the same invasion as >> happened >> > > over here. >> > > >> > > That said, if you want to you can trace the whole lineage of rapping >to >> > > Jamaican DJ's and toasters, Especially U-Roy... >> > > >> > > -s >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:48:20 -0400 >To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "Joel Reitzloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >could anyone tell me what year bob marley got big? at least wherever he came >from anyways > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mxyzptlk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "myster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:58 PM >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > >> One further addendum : Johnny Nash had a few singles out in the late >> 60s/early 70s with a reggae flavor and popchart success stateside as well. >> "I Can See Clearly Now" was resurrected later for a Windex (window >cleaner) >> commercial. I think his cover of Marley's "Stir it Up" made a dent in the >> charts here as well. I know it was an UK hit. >> jeff >> >> >> >> >> At 11:37 AM 8/25/2001, Mxyzptlk wrote: >> >Not even. You'd have to back further than that - 1969, I think, to >> >Desmond Dekker & The Aces' top ten hit "The Israelites". Remember also >> >that in those days, "mainstream" was considered the AM radio format and >FM >> >was for your more "underground" tastes in general (although by 1973 this >> >was already changing, in 1969 this was definitely the case). >> > jeff >> > >> > >> > >> >At 10:13 AM 8/25/2001, myster wrote: >> >>Going back even further, I would think America's first mainstream >> >>introduction to reggae would be through Led Zeppelin's "D'yer Maker", >what >> >>was that 73'? >> >> >> >>j >> > >> > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:11:29 -0500 >To: "Joel Reitzloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >http://www.allmusic.com/ >A handy link. Go here and search "artist" for Bob Marley. Most of what you >find here is reliable...however, if you search "Being" (i.e., Dave Being) >you'll see that someone thinks this is a Claude Young alias (same pops up >when you search Claude Young). I don't think this is the case, so I say >"most" of what you find there is reliable... > jeff > >At 08:48 PM 8/25/2001, Joel Reitzloff wrote: >>could anyone tell me what year bob marley got big? at least wherever he came >>from anyways > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:26:22 +0100 (BST) >To: 313@hyperreal.org >From: robin pinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: ur manchester - again >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >if anyone gets individual mails and has seen anything about whether UR >play in manchester or not tonite (24th), can they forward on the info to >me directly as i only get the digest...(if we go we need to leave soon) > >many many thanks > >robin... > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:45:41 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org >From: "Chana Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] ectomorph, Fri.31st >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >correction on the region, I meant first time in the Northwest. Not the West >Coast, er, duh!!! sorry > >chana > > *************** > ***** ELECTRO ***** > *************** > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >All the way from Detroit, Brendan M. Gillen AKA Ectomorph, is coming to >Seattle for his first appearence on the west coast. Brendan's Seattle >performance will mark the debut event for the new collective Edos >Productions. Edos is the focused efforts of Jerry Abstract, Chana Goodman >and Kuri Kondrak, to provide a North West conduit for Detroit music and >dedicated techno variations. > >The event will be on Fri, Aug 31st, at The Aristocrats, located in Seattle's >Pioneer Square on the corner of 4th and Main. Spinning with Ectomorph will >be Detroit's Jerry Abstract, and Kuri Kondrak, music editor of Resonance >magazine. Doors will open at 9:30 and the show will run till 4:00am. > >Some info about Brendan for those who may be unfamiliar: > >Gillen has engineered electro's second coming with a three-pronged attack of >producing, distributing, and the creation of his own label. >Brendan's productions under the guise of Ectomorph and Flexitone have >enacted some of the most focused, compelling electro mandates to date. >Gillen's Star67 distribution company has also quitely been helping to push >the genre's anonymous labels from the deepest sound recesses into the light. >Since 1995, his own record imprint,Interdimensional Transmissions, has >actuated a strain of global neo-electro/tech-funk that has seen the earliest >incarnations of Ectomorph (from the skeletal thump and fuzz of "Subsonic >Vibrations" to the more recent dystopic take on dubby Arthur Russell disco >on "Destroy Your Powercenters"), the seminal From Beyond compilation and >subsequent releases from Holland's I-F (responsible for the dirty-Italo >disco sleaze "Space >Invaders Are Smoking Grass") and Austrian-based GD Luxxe (his 20th Door EP >revealed a hitherto unknown connecton from electro to post-punk/new wave >with strains of Joy Division). Whatever Gillen's actions, the purpose has >been to link the past with the future, the finished with the unfinished, the >ass with the mind. Expect to be inspired. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:58:37 >To: 313@hyperreal.org >From: "Chana Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: 2xaction >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I dont know why my messages keep posting twice in a row, dont mean to be >causing clutter. > >I think my server is tweeking out > >chana > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:09:48 -0600 >To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: Michael Gano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Dub >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Regarding the dub request & Blood & Fire.... > >Blood & Fire's houses some great roots dub...I'd recommend the albums off >B&F: >-Yabby You's Tribute to King Tubby >-X-Ray Music: A Dub Directory >-Dubwise and Otherwise > >and then for a great mix of old and new check out: >-Select Cuts from Blood & Fire - Actually put out by Echo Beach, it has a >lot of contempories (Smith & Mighty, Alex Patterson, Stereo MC's, Groove >Corporation...) remixing the rootsmen (King Tubby, Yabby You, Tappa Zukie, >Horace Andy, I Roy...) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:56:07 -0400 >To: "Christian Bloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "sound" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [313] dub >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >i second that, king tubby is incredible. if you want to hear some wild >dub-sounding electronics check raymond scotts ibm/bendix stuff > >> get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to >check >> out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck >> _________ >> ?christian bl;och,>...fr%o3m tha/ d >> ____-- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kao Jyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:42 AM >> Subject: [313] dub >> >> >> > i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain >> > reaction. >> > someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and >> fire >> > i think??????) that you could totally hear the influence. >> > there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to >> give >> > me some good recommendations. >> > thanks >> > kaojyan >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> NetZero Platinum >> Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! >> http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:32:01 +0100 >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >From: "Max Duley (ARCart)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: My Japan report >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I wrote a diary style narrative of my recent DJ trip to Japan: > >It's long, and does not concentrate on techno, but if you decide you want to >read it the address is: > >http://www.arcrecords.freeserve.co.uk/japanreport.htm > >Max >--- >http://www.ARCart.org > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:37:58 +1000 >To: 313@hyperreal.org >From: Southern Outpost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Paging Colin Chen or any Singapore resident. >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Please email me privately. > >Peace, >Patrick. > -- ============================ Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.web.net/~neilw ============================ naw [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technologix.org/ram/m2/m2nawlive.ram ============================ clonk http://www.techno.ca/clonk ============================ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]