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Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 23:14:26 -0600
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Ok then - let's discuss some American artists (black artists that is) that
don't get their dues, within the techno/house/drum&bass/etc. community that
is, because we all know that outside of it they are virtually unknown. So
I'll throw out a couple of names just to get the ball rolling (hopefully).
Pick which ever you want and tell us what and why you think they are -- oh
man I feel like I should be wearing a tweed coat with elbow patches.
Eddie "Flashin'" Fowlkes (or is it "Old Skool" now) - he was there along
with the other magnificent three but never got the recognition.
Alan Oldham - not only is he a great music producer but without him
DJAX-UP-BEATS would not be the same. Has never made enough comic books.
and here's some that aren't in the dance music genres but should be
celebrated and "discovered"
James Blood Ulmer - guitarist
Steve Coleman and the M-Base Collective
Andrew Cyrille - drummer
Just thought we could talk about the artists instead of bitching about
whether we should be talking about the artists.
Oh I'll also add Mary Wilson of the original Supremes - listen to her with
Cannonball Adderly for proof of her superior voice (compared to scary Diana
Ross)
MEK
glyph1001
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Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists
02/09/02 12:30 PM
Please respond to
glyph1001
Right on!! Can't say it better myself. =)
Have a nice day!
g.
"If you ain't feelin' it, this ain't for you!" --Steve Harvey (Kings
of Comedy)
Nicole Slavin wrote:
at the risk of being slated, how can so many people remove the context of
this music. it comes from a society and a place that has been a long time
marginalised. and, you will find the same problems in any european country
you decide to venture into.
you cannot divorce the artists' experience from their music and to deny
that
race is an issue for this music is well, frankly, weird.
why the dismissiveness towards this subject? would you look at a piece of
art without wondering about its social and historical context, would you
read a book and take it only at face value?
i know many people on the list feel this subject has been talked to death,
but it hasn't. it is still relevant and unresolved. how can you say you
have
no need to understand problems of the US, they are our problems too and
the
cultural and policitical and economic hegemonies of the US run the entire
world. do you want us to be programmed and passive forever?
there, i've had my say, criticise if you will.
N
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From: Berislav Oremus
To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date: 09 February 2002 07:07
Subject: Re: [313] Black techno artists
With no disrespect intended (I really love your music and your
contributions
to the list), I think a lot of Europeans have trouble relating to racial
problems in the US
this is so offtopic again, but im asking my self how we europeans cant
understand a racial problem in us, and again everything we do (in smaller
countreys) is so not democratic and we always live on some teritory of
economic sanctions, but we have to understand a rical problem in US. im
confused....
i have a very big respect for black artist, and realy i dont have any
problems with black or white.
but i dont have any need to understand problems in US, at the same time
that
somebody from US have no need to understand problems that we have, or we
had....
and lets take that off this list... music learnd me to be tolerant
b.
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