so your saying we all piss heads... :0) -----Original Message----- From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2002 17:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Baby Ford / Zip
I don't agree with this. In terms of substances, illegal drugs are illegal everywhere, more or less regardless of the city you're in. any number of individual and cultural factors lead people to choice between different kinds of drugs when they go out. to me, that's just one among a great number of reasons why demand for certain styles of dj-ing goes way beyond alcohol age limits. ben On Thu, 16 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think there actually is some truth to this, and it's not necessarily a bad > reflection on European DJs. The most plausible theory I've heard is that > it's to do with the higher age limit for buying alcohol in America. > Americans from 18-21, when they go out to a club, can't (legally) drink, and > so to them it's more of a directly musical experience - they want a DJ to > actually keep them interested throughout the night, and are less fussed > about being able to dance, so a culture has evolved whereby American DJs > with good track selection but no deck skills often don't go down well with > the 18-21 club audience, which is sober enough to pay attention to what's > going on. In Europe, the younger audience is more likely to be drunk, and > therefore less likely to notice an unoriginal or even slightly bad mix - > they want to dance, not watch DJs perform. > > If any evidence could be found backing up this theory, it might involve > looking at the more 'debauched' scenes in US dance music history, such as > the Loft and the Paradise Garage, where copious amounts of drugs and drink > led to a culture where crowds revered DJs whose mixing skills were actually > pretty crappy. I've seen certain Detroit bass DJs, with excellent skills, > lose the crowd here really badly because people don't really want to watch > some insane skills, and find it hard to keep the rhythm with a DJ who's > constantly doing tricks and never letting a record run for a while. > > In the sphere of techno, particularly, the whole notion of a techno DJ doing > deck tricks has always been a slight novelty - I remember seeing Claude > Young in London about eight years ago, and people were shocked into silence > even by backspins, let alone beat-juggling or crab scratching! I loved it > myself... but there just isn't the call for hotshot deck tricks in the DJ > trade over here, really. The main questions seem to be, i) does he choose > good tracks?, and ii) can he play for two straight hours with no major > f*ckups? > > Brendan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 16 May 2002 16:40 > > > > I think fans of Detroit techno get spoiled by the incredible skills > > Detroit DJs have. Its something far more important to > > Detroit DJ culture > > than European DJ culture (yes, there are a lot of exceptions) > > > > uh...that why i said there are a lot of exceptions. > > > > It's still one of the lamest comments I've ever seen posted > > on 313. What is this theory based on ? > > > Legal Disclaimer > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete > this e-mail from your system. > mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as > information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or > incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept > liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for > informational purposes only. > our website at: http://www.widelearning.com > > Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: > 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB > Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ====data general=========== ==www.umich.edu/~btausig=== [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
