Don't be shocked. It's preference, i was just telling you mine and i don't expect you to make assumptions on how narrow or open minded i am. Sure we don't have the same vision for a night but that doesn't mean that people who want something different to you are not receptive to other stuff. I certaintly attend a lot of things and give most nights a chance. And yes, there is a lot of european techno that is great, the music from Germany at Signal was superb, last night i was at a UK electro night also listening to amazing music, etc,etc. But detroit is my first love................it's why i'm on this list and not some other. I hope you understand a little better where i'm coming from and it doesn't have to be the same place as you :) Oh, also wanted to add. That in talking about Lost yesterday, i forgot to mention that i think Lost has done a great job these 10 years in consistantly supporting 313 artists and have really helped the London scene to grow and maintain itself. I just don't think it's the *only* thing around. And yes you are right, Ken, there is room at Lost and other nights for all sorts of techno and if one looks at Lost lineups, it has always been this way. -----Original Message----- From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Nicole Slavin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: 30 August 2002 10:12 Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend
>so yor happy to take in just Detriot techno but no other techno?? yet you >probably heard a >few european techno tracks in your night out/s... > >thats seems unreal that you can be soo blinkered in your >view on Techno..I thought the whole point of loving techno would open you to >other things.. > >well I guess I won't be askign for your help on the night I run then cos you >just want US techno >and by you saying " I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be >along a 313 vein" is not >working for me. > >I guess thats why the uk scene is not well supported when ohters try to do >things, if there are more >uk 313 who have this view please speak cos this has defo shocked me. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 29 August 2002 18:18 >To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend > > > > >>I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris >>Leibing, Adam Beyer, >>Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath >etc > > >i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard >this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm >a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone >listening i hope :) > >>Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people >to >the >>London scene. >>the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with >UK >>talent. >>I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing. > > >Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I >don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It >can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40 >To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend > > >>man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their >>bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the >>floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to >this >>list? >>sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of >>Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco >>Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but >shame its >>on Thursday. > >It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. >Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who >support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And >the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to >keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. >Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection >and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going >to hear on their own merits. >Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of >London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen >him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special >for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs >of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! >Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not >just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old >stuff :) > >. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ian Cheshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: 'Odeluga, Ken' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org ><313@hyperreal.org> >Date: 29 August 2002 12:12 >Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend > > >I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost. > >Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry. > >the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not >stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone >but >he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two >decks , heaven knows! >but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400 >they need to get there >money back! > >Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was >great, a >good broad range of music through the years. > >Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing, >so opted for Colin) was superb!like >you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than >Tanaka and Bicknell anyday. > >Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light & sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I >say as he is always welcome in >my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some >home-grown talent. > >I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about, >particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know >these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff. >And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks >would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their >bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the >floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this >list? > >sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of >Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco >Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its >on Thursday. > >One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >Subject: [313] Lost Weekend > > >Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and >maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) .... Now >that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? > >I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, >Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I >wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? > >Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* >off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) > >Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more >towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A >H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track >names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows >in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ >hours .... hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing >out less and less .... > >Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, >which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I >sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus >already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) >a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. > >Opinions please! > >Cheers, > >K > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
