First techno record?

"Kristallo" by Kraftwerk.  I'm not sure what LP it is on, but it dates from
1971-73. Whilst not produced strictly as a "techno" release, it has all the
proper qualities required.  Staying on a teutonic tip, Can's "Chain
Reaction", released in 1974 on "Soon over Babaluma" is more tribal than
anything I've ever heard. Surely "Man Machine" and "Spacelab" on "Die Mensch
Maschine" in 1978 are pure techno as well....






----- Original Message -----
From: Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: (313) first techno record


> On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Jason wrote:
>
> > Most certainly Sharivari is the first techno record from detroit.  It
> > preceded Alleys of your Mind by Cybotron by at least six months in
release.
> >
> > Some techno heads would argue that kraftwerk was the first to produce
> > techno, but from detroit it is A Number of Names with Sharivari.
>
> this appears to be based on the first definition.  i guess it really
> depends on how deep you want to go theoretically.  there's a problem of
> prolepsis--projecting the future onto the past.  in this case, we don't
> have any substantial proof that the creators of shari vari either sought
> out to create a new genre, or knew that they DID create a new genre, much
> less come up with the name that we're placing on it (techno) in hindsight.
> it's more like we're taking shari vari or alleys of your mind and saying
> that it is techno because:
>
> 1.  it comes from detroit
> 2.  it sounds like later stuff that we call techno
> 3.  some of the later stuff comes from the same artists
>
> if we want to just kick it around like this, then i really don't see why
> we'd just focus on detroit.  there's no inherent reason for it if we're
> not going to some seminal text (verbal or written) that LITERALLY maps the
> term "techno" onto the music.
>
> on "techno" as a term originating in the seventies:
>
> this is an excellent point.  i guess the question i'd have is, when did
> the term "stick?" Are there people walking around referring to techno that
> have the seventies stuff in their heads rather than either the detroit
> stuff or the european stuff that comes out in the nineties?
>
>
> peace
> lks
>

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