Anyone got  kikrokos  dj jungle.....  Strange disco wierdness then out of
the blue comes a couple of minutes of pure techno bliss...

I think k alexi sampled it in risque madness...  From around 1977  I think

> First techno record?
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> "Kristallo" by Kraftwerk.  I'm not sure what LP it is on, but it dates from
> 1971-73. Whilst not produced strictly as a "techno" release, it has all the
> proper qualities required.  Staying on a teutonic tip, Can's "Chain
> Reaction", released in 1974 on "Soon over Babaluma" is more tribal than
> anything I've ever heard. Surely "Man Machine" and "Spacelab" on "Die Mensch
> Maschine" in 1978 are pure techno as well....
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: (313) first techno record
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Jason wrote:
>> 
>>> Most certainly Sharivari is the first techno record from detroit.  It
>>> preceded Alleys of your Mind by Cybotron by at least six months in
> release.
>>> 
>>> Some techno heads would argue that kraftwerk was the first to produce
>>> techno, but from detroit it is A Number of Names with Sharivari.
>> 
>> this appears to be based on the first definition.  i guess it really
>> depends on how deep you want to go theoretically.  there's a problem of
>> prolepsis--projecting the future onto the past.  in this case, we don't
>> have any substantial proof that the creators of shari vari either sought
>> out to create a new genre, or knew that they DID create a new genre, much
>> less come up with the name that we're placing on it (techno) in hindsight.
>> it's more like we're taking shari vari or alleys of your mind and saying
>> that it is techno because:
>> 
>> 1.  it comes from detroit
>> 2.  it sounds like later stuff that we call techno
>> 3.  some of the later stuff comes from the same artists
>> 
>> if we want to just kick it around like this, then i really don't see why
>> we'd just focus on detroit.  there's no inherent reason for it if we're
>> not going to some seminal text (verbal or written) that LITERALLY maps the
>> term "techno" onto the music.
>> 
>> on "techno" as a term originating in the seventies:
>> 
>> this is an excellent point.  i guess the question i'd have is, when did
>> the term "stick?" Are there people walking around referring to techno that
>> have the seventies stuff in their heads rather than either the detroit
>> stuff or the european stuff that comes out in the nineties?
>> 
>> 
>> peace
>> lks
>> 
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