Brendan - sounds like you were thinking abt this before I asked! ... so no one thinks the early Basic Channel tracks were a definitive beginning of a dub/techno hybrid?
For me, whilst something like 'Lyot's got the sea of reverb, it just hasn't got the 'stillness' (best word I can think of right now.) ... >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:43 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) what was the first dub-techno record ever? > > >Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > >-------------------- Start of message text -------------------- > >Alright, I'll bite.... > >Dub - techno? Never heard of it, but it has to be Eddy Grant's 'Timewarp' >surely...? (1981) > > > > >"Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/10/2002 09:28:48 > >Please respond to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Phonopsia" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org" <313@hyperreal.org> >cc: > > >Subject: RE: (313) what was the first dub-techno record ever? > >Good question! I always view the starting point of that strand of music as >being Quadrant's "Infinition" on Planet E, but for reasons I would find >hard >to back up in an argument R-Tyme's "Illusion" often sounds like a >dub-techno >record to me. > >Why? Well, practically every early techno record was produced with no >noticable delay or reverb on any of the sounds - the music sounded as if it >was pressed directly on the surface of the vinyl. However the only early >techno track I can think of which does use delay and reverb to give a sense >of space between the listener and the sounds on the record is "Illusion", >which uses the dub-techno method of focusing the listener's attention on a >simple chord sequence and then allowing the chords to drift off into the >ether. > >I can't think of any earlier record right now that uses the same "chord >drift" technique so R-Tyme's "Illusion" would be my pick... > >Brendan > >| -----Original Message----- >| From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >| Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:12 AM >| To: Phonopsia; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ca; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org >| Subject: RE: (313) what was the first techno record ever? >| >| >| OK, how abt a more specific question: What was the first 'Dub-techno' >| record? (Deliberately vague.) >| >| I'm *not* assuming Mortiz von Oswald was involved either! >| >| Ken >| >| Audax: >| >I completely agree on all of your points, and I wont post about it >| >again. Its something I will look into doing when I have time to >| >muck about. >| > >| >For something like this, you definately have to go to the sources. >| >| Tristan: >| >| >> I think we can safely say this is not the right list on which to >| >> undertakethis project. Perhaps you should set up your website with >| >> these questions, > > > > >--------------------- End of message text -------------------- > >This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has >misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to >this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not >use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. > >The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and >its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London >WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for >inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are >authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts >for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The >UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the >Financial Services Authority for investment business activities. >PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide >PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. > >PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming >e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and >telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you >give your consent to such monitoring. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to >which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or >taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or >entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received >this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any >computer. > >
