Well I guess the problem is, how "313" does it have to be? I think there is still some good Detroit-influenced techno being made, but maybe not so many records coming direct from Detroit. I'd say there is good 313-influenced minimal, hard techno, melodic techno, and electro all being made. Maybe a lot to sort through to find the quality records, but I'm sure if you look around there are good new records made every week or two.
/dave -----Original Message----- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New Music and Elitism - Was Re: test like others i wouldn't mind seeing more 313 music being discussed on this list. but unfortunately there isn't to much of it around lately. maybe alan oldham was right, when he stated in an interview earlier this year, that techno is dead in detroit. take a look at the people releasing techno [on a somewhat regular basis] from detroit: shake, ur, keith tucker, strand, carl craig, burden brothers and a couple more, all of whom have been in it from the beginning or 2nd wave. new commers? there's a couple, but few and far between. the techno scene is still dominated by the same names, house is theo/kdj and a host of others [norm talley, ferris park, moods & grooves, etc] and the ghetto-tech scene is dominated by the same people that started it out 5 or 6 years ago: assault, godfather, mr dé. i think this is partially why some of us here have shifted more towards buying house, disco, hip-hop or something else, because we all love music, but we can't find any techno that's good enough to buy. i know this is the reason why i started buying different records then just techno. at some point i couldn't find what i was looking for in the techno section in my recordstore, but i did find hints of the 313 sound in records on labels like 2000black, or archive. same thing for house, i started listening to theo parrish, because i thought i'd give his music a listen because he came from detroit, and i hoped to hear some 313-techno influence in his music that was lacking in most of the techno i heard at the time. through theo's mixes i got into older music, and i think that maybe this [temporary ?] drought in techno land will someday be the beginning of a new wave of fresh techno, that gets it's influence not just from the latest succesfull record, but from all sorts of musical styles from the past and the future, or better yet, influenced by every day life. so eventhough i've hardly bought any techno the past year, i still find myself digging through the techno section first in every record store i visit. i also think that most of the 313 relevant material that's worth discussing is getting mentioned on this list. picked up the claro.intellect 12" om ai, nice, but i basically only listen to the first track on side a, the second track uses a bit to much d n'b sounds for my taste, but that first track is just stunning. also picked up the first local 3000 by mr dé and b. calloway, the calloway track is the one for me, eventhough it's very fast, i dig the it in it's simple funky way. didn't get the local 3000 with that MIA track, and i'm somewhat uncertain about that, i LOVED schoolcraft bump, and this one is equally strange, but it didn't immediately catch me, but i think i'm going to love this when i hear it a couple times more. can't wait for the new psychostasia by reggie dokes, tony drake and one more [genesis?] the clips on the submerge site sounded great, i think minto allready mentioned this one. jurren _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
