Well my experiences with Allan & Heith are pretty tough...
I've been resident DJ at Panama, Amsterdam (where the cosmic twins... May &
Kevorkian recently played) where they had a new mixer of A&H.
The mixer went out of phase the minute I started twisting my EQ's!
Maybe it was wrecked though it was brand new.
Never ever experienced this before on another mixer... though A&H is a real
solid and professional brand imo.
Although you're right about those Pioneer mixers, I always hope that a venue
has at least a Pioneer mixer...


Dr. Nutcracker.

> This is one of the reasons I dislike Pioneer mixers, especially on large
> systems.  All the processing is done digitally, so if the DJ gets carried
> away and the master signal is at any more than one or two notches into the
> red you get wonderful digital distortion that no limiter in the world will
> prevent from hitting the mains.  Mixers with analog guts like Vestax or A
&
> H (I think - ???) are much more forgiving.
>
> Or maybe I'm just saying in a roundabout way that when I get carried away
I
> can't control my levels ;)
>
> - j
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Chester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: (313) RE: A&H Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
>
>
> > Doesn't matter if you turn the amps down, you'd still have a distorted
> > signal coming off the mixer if the gains were red-lining- but it's still
> > irritating as hell not to have gains easily accessible on the mixer to
> > balance the levels properly.  Most clubs also have limiters to prevent
> crap
> > DJs blowing the rigs... essential unless you can be 100% sure the DJs
know
> > what they are doing!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dan Bean
> > To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
> > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: (313) RE: A&H Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
> >
> >
> > Wouldn't it be easier to just turn the amps down?
> >
> > You wrote:
> > > My understanding is that they were placed on the rear for "protection"
> > > purposes.
> > > IE: If in a club (and rack mounted) then the venue could ensure that
> "Trim
> > > Happy" DJ's won't blow their rig.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 20 November 2003 12:04
> > > To: Gary Robinson; Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
> > > Cc: 313
> > > Subject: A&H Xone 32 (was richie hawtin in Wired)
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not convinced - although what do I know, not being a dj?
> > >
> > > No readily accessible trims means you can't really use volume as an
> effect
> > > as much as you might.
> > >
> > > Also, as for myself, when I do play, I tend to play quite a bit of old
> > > records - I mean over ten years old - which are often 'quiet'
pressings
> > for
> > > any number of reasons.
> > >
> > > Reaching back to the gains to turn a channel up and then hurriedly
going
> > > back there to turn it down again for the next record will get
> irritating,
> > > and knowing me, I'll probably forget sometimes ...
> > >
> > > k
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:22 AM
> > > >To: Martin; Jason Brunton; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
> > > >Cc: 313
> > > >Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >All down to space on the front panel, you can set the gain while
you're
> > > >cueing up and shouldn't need to tweak it, whereas the EQs, sends,
> filter
> > > >etc. all need to be closer to hand while in the mix. Before I got a
> Xone
> > 32
> > > >I thought it was a stupid place to have the gains, but after a
> > > >week or so of
> > > >getting used to it I've never given it another thought. It's just a
> great
> > > >sounding well built piece of kit.
> > > >
> > > >Gary
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Jason Brunton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)"
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:27 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Why are the gains on the back tho"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 20/11/03 10:29 AM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>
> > > >> > I'll back that one up- the A+H mixers are the only DJ mixers I've
> > ever
> > > >> > used where you can actually BOOST frequencies with the EQ and it
> > > >> > doesn't sound harsh- they have  anew mixer out new month with a
big
> > > >> > launch party at Cargo in London- I'll let you all know what its
> like
> > > >> > once I've seen it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > cheers
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jason Brunton
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Blackman, Ryan
(UKEKT)
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> The A&H mixer has awesome sound quality, and comprises of top
end
> > > >> >> compenents
> > > >> >> throughout.
> > > >> >> The EQ is 4 way too, and from my own experience, allows much
> > > >> >> creativity in
> > > >> >> the mix, not to mention tighter control of the sound.
> > > >> >> The facilities (ranging from Aux Send/Return, Filters etc)
> > > >are also top
> > > >> >> notch.
> > > >> >> In short- I have never used anything better.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> >> Sent: 19 November 2003 9:49
> > > >> >> To: m a t t [d]
> > > >> >> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: (313) richie hawtin in wired magazine
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, m a t t [d] wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/
> > > >> >>> 0,1412,61273,00.html?tw=wn_story_top5
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> interesting about his modified allen and heath mixer
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> sorry if this has been posted before...
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> matt :)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> a couple of comments:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 1.  i didn't think itunes had dance music from independent
> > labels....
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 2.  people talk about how hawtin (and others) simply play the
same
> > set
> > > >> >> over and over again, or at least variations of that set.  it
isn't
> > > >> >> hard to
> > > >> >> understand why this dynamic occurs given his travel
> > > >itinerary.  doesn't
> > > >> >> mean it is RIGHT...but it IS understandable.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 3.  i'm not familiar with the allen and heath mixer.  what
> > > >does he gain
> > > >> >> from modifying IT as opposed to a standard say, GEMINI?
(*ducks*)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> peace
> > > >> >> lks
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
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