ahh cool, thanks for the post michael :) seems like KY jelly is used....
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2004 18:42 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) Well damn, the website that has the info is run by the Dept. of Homeland Security and they really really really make it hard for anyone to find info on visiting so I suggest you all stay at home because obviously they don't want you here ;) seriously, it took me forever to find on the website where they had the info http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/publications/travel/ scroll down the page till you see the form "Tips for Visitors" - I think it's a Word document oh wait - there's also a document called "Visiting the United States" and "Welcome to the United States" (which is at the bottom of the page - funny place to put that eh?) there's also a document called "Personal Search: What to Expect" in which they let you know which kind of lubricant they are going to use MEK "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] och.eu.com> cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) 04/06/04 11:13 AM I would love to know aswell. James post seems pretty all-encompassing - I just don't want to believe it. RB -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2004 4:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) so how serious is this visa thing? I mean I am bookign my ticket to the states just as a holiday goer for the festival, what's the score there then? cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 06/04/2004 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) >any experience with welding they just want to know if you're qualified for the job MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] sDigest.com To: cc: 313@hyperreal.org 04/05/04 07:58 PM Subject: RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) when he played in brooklyn a few years back there was a nice size turnout for the night, at least by new york standards. maybe in europe he gets mobbed and followed by paparazzi. but what the hell, I-f can choose to play where and when he wants without owing me an explanation. but i've got to say, visa issues wouldn't help. i was planning to return to new york for a visit in may - but the visa process isn't worth the hassle - i have to get a copy of any police record, be fingerprinted and photographed, attend at interview, show all passports i've ever held, fill out a form listing all mititary training, any experience with welding, firearms, explosives etc., and the list continues. and when i arrive at LAX there is no guaraantee i'll be let in - they'll put me back on the plane if i have an unpaid parking fine in australia. james www.jbucknell.com mp3 mixes "Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To tergykoch.eu.com> 'robin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 05/04/04 05:22 PM "Steward, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject RE: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to gigs where no one came to? You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the basis that they are at least gonna be worth your while.... It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US) anyway. -----Original Message----- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06 To: Steward, Tim Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion) yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere. anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too) robin... Steward, Tim wrote: > I also disagree - because a record label is responsible > for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here > in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose > to promote themselves in this market how do they expect > people to know what they are about or trying to do.. > I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that > allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job > industry I am sure that is rare for most people... > > Just thoughts... > > TS-1 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion) > > > Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience > understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about. > > I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;) > > e > > > >> >>>he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again >> >>Did he state for what reason? >> >>This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many >>other list members have heard artists say this. >> >>US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live elsewhere >>because they are requested to play more often in other countries >>and >>DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now >>refuse to >> >>what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or >>refusing to play in the states? >> >>frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand) >> >>MEK >> >> > > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. 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