sorry Tim I wasn't saying you didn't support them, I was just saying hats off
to them anyway :)
but yeah it is sad that the city choose one event and not another event...I
mean they must make good tourism money to invest at least a fare amount of
money into it?....tyical of many cities though sadly :(
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From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:52
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co..
it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support
the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they
had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event
as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any...
These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:48 AM
To: Steward, Tim; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year
-doh!- but Red Bull in Europe
do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to
help...but
as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands....
also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's
thru
and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be
honest
I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and
producing net along trying to organise a free event for the masses so
hats
off to Derrick, Kevin and Co...
-----Original Message-----
From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals
But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth
rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at
least
for me.
These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for
the
10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides.
so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400
worth
of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my
budget.
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford
was a
major
sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved
downtown
last year
and nobody approached them. These are they type of sponsors they
need the
clothing stores are cool, but they don't have the same level of
money to put
up. The economy is bad, yes but all the resources need to be
tapped.
Now we have the pontiac techno house music festival july 11-12
which I plan
to
attend, but the real question why start a new festival instead
of
joining
forces
with the movement festival.
And maybe it's just me but the name change from demf/movement
needs
to be
properly
communicated-did anyone notice that some restaurants/bars had
old
demf signs
up.
I know that's petty but I noticed it.
Also I think everyone in the city with a small record label
needs to
contribute
so that a city wide effort is put forth.
The logistics were poor, mainly due to city politics there were
politics
involved
last year, but this year they interfered with the festival, so
it
was out in
the
open not behind the scenes like last year.
Derrick,(Transmat,High Tech)Kevin(KMS) worked hard to give us a
good
show.
So I send them one big Techno Thank You......................
Overall I enjoyed the movement 04, I played on Sunday afternoon
@nikkis
with negative-saucer which was a cool small set.
Tim
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From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erin Bate
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Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
I still can't believe that the city doesn't pay a dime. Down
here
(charlotte) the city pays for most of the chessy music
festivals we
have
and they don't draw anywhere near a million + people. Do any of
you
guys
in Detroit know whether the city helps for other festivals in
the
city.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 4:17 PM
To: Erin Bate
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; /0
Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as
well.
So what part of the business do they need to run better?
Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy
economy
part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up
some
cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal
money
or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major
debt?
I'd like to know...
Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if
nobody
is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't
going to
happen again.
How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another
festival?
MEK
Erin Bate
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06/01/04 02:51 PM
I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some
business
classes.
~E
From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious
spot.
Detroit
can't let this slip away.
this is an excellent article - really says it like
it
is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or
the
DEMF
should read this
I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some
donations so
I
can go again next year
where do I send my check?
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