didnt terrence fixmer do a mix album of all this sort of stuff recently? anyone buy it?
seems an extension/progression fo the electroclash '80s fixation, with dj hell typically out front. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > > >Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider that to > be good > >thing then? > > Yes - very much so. It's good to hear someone is playing > something from > that era besides Nitzer Ebb > they along with several other groups had a more consistent, > longer, and > less one-dimensional career > > >Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were the > 'big names' > >of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U don't > have to like > >thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total Age' > sound like a > >pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or > 'Showtime' and u > >wil hear a different band. > > I don't like 'That Total Age' but it does seem to be the only one > that gets > played in techno sets. > I'd love to hear tunes off of their other records within techno > sets - but > it doens't happen. > > it's always either 'Join in the Chant' or 'Let Your Body Learn' > that I hear > > and yes, I do think they are crap tunes - explain to me what this > is about > beyond vague sloganeering. > If they were trying to mock fascists then Laibach beat them to it > except > Laibach has a much better and more fleshed out idea and message. > If they were trying to be angry but danceable then Front 242 has > them beat > there. > I've never been a fan of bands/artists that have really vague yet > anthemic > tunes - especially those that have big chanting sing-along type > lyrics > lots of rage (or feigned rage) but what is the target or cause? > There's > just nothing there. I just want them to light a joint and calm > the f*ck > down - maybe think of something interesting to say while still > making me > dance. However the lyrics in these two tunes are about as > interesting as > Madonna's. > > I read a Amazon customer review that pretty much sums up Nitzer's > entire > first album: > > >>NE's approach to things was pretty simple: lay down a pummeling > beat, > shout military vocals and lay some simple yet catchy synth hooks > on top > > look at these lyrics: > > lies, lies, lies, lies > gold, gold, gold, gold > guns, guns, guns, guns > fire, fire, fire > > gold, gold, gold, gold > judge, judge, judge, judge > guns, guns, guns, guns > fire, fire, fire > > muscle and hate > muscle and hate > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle > > lies, lies, lies, lies > books, books, books, books > burn, burn, burn, burn > fire, fire, fire > > judge, judge, judge, judge > gold, gold, gold, gold > guns, guns, guns, guns > fire, fire, fire > > muscle and hate > muscle and hate > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle > > join in the chant > join in the chant > join in the chant > join in the chant > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle > > lies, lies, lies, lies > books, books, books, books > burn, burn, burn, burn > fire, fire, fire > > guns, guns, guns, guns > gold, gold, gold, gold > judge, judge, judge, judge > fire, fire, fire > > muscle and hate > muscle and hate > muscle, muscle > muscle and hate > muscle and hate > > force is machine > force is machine > force is machine > join in the chant > force is machine > join in the chant > muscle, muscle > > lies, lies, lies, lies > books, books, books, books > burn, burn, burn, burn > fire, fire, fire > > judge, judge, judge, judge > gold, gold, gold, gold > guns, guns, guns, guns > fire, fire, fire > > muscle and hate > muscle and hate > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle > > force is machine > force is machine > join in the chant > force is machine > join in the chant > join in the chant > join in the chant > join in the chant (muscle) > muscle, muscle, muscle > > fire, fire, fire > > join in the chant > ____________ > > yeah, whatever. > > MEK > > > > > > "Martijn de Blaauw" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > chline.biz> cc: > 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: > Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh? > > 06/22/04 01:48 AM > > Please respond to > > martijn.de.blaauw > > > > > > > > > > Crap? don't think u can call their tunes crap...they where one of > the very > few electronical bands to come out of the UK and have a some > reputation or > respect within in the Electronic/EBM scene from back in the > days. > > Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were the 'big > names' > of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U don't have > to like > thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total Age' > sound like a > pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or > 'Showtime' and u > wil hear a different band. > > Futhermore i think that their titles and lyrics really go well > with > techno..'let your body learn', 'join in the chant', 'murderous' > and > 'Control i'm here' just fit well with hard looped techno:-) > > Hawtin, Surgeon and the rest just might feel that these song are > classics > and they grew up with it as being their early contact with > electronic > music and this is their way of paying respect. > > Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider that to > be good > thing then? i do....great tunes were made back in those days, > they deserve > to be played out again > > And yes, Douglas Mcarthy, the former shouter of Nitzer Ebb has > made a > great, very great album with Terence Fixmer called 'between the > devil..' > and this mix between oldschool EBM, his vocals and 2004 techno > really my > stereo at the moment...Highly Recommended! > > just my 50 cents on this sunny morning.. > > Martijn > > > > > > > > > > > > > What's with their sudden popularity again? > > Is it a result of Richie Hawtin throwing them into his "Decks, > efx&909" > > mix? > > > > They were riding the coat-tails of D.A.F. as far as I'm > concerned. > > They're lyrics were sh!t, their beats were rudimentary, and > their debut > > album (and those that followed) regurgitates the same > elementary themes > > over and over. > > > > There were at least a handful of artists that were better: > > Meat Beat Manifesto (used Nitzer Ebb as toilet paper) > > Front 242 > > Front Line Assembly > > Foetus > > Depeche Mode > > SPK > > Test Dept. > > Throbbing Gristle > > Cabaret Voltaire > > 23 Skidoo > > A Certain Ratio > > > > and on and on..... > > > > each of these bands could do what Nitzer Ebb was trying to do > but they > all > > did it better > > and any one of them make Nitzer Ebb look like a teenage boy > band. > > > > If I hear that line "Lies lies etc guns guns etc fire fire > etc." anymore > > I'm going to lose it. > > It's a crap tune - it was a crap tune in 1987 - it's a crap > tune now. > > > > > > So - can anyone explain why the popularity of Nitzer Ebb and > why do they > > end up in so many techno sets nowadays? > > > > MEK > > > > > > > >
