> -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 November 2004 20:06 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Magick Times: Detroit > > Austin Osman Spare called this a state of "neither neither" - > a state of mind where the internal chatter is silenced and a > strange kind of auto-pilot takes over. This can often happen > if you drive the same route to work everyday - you arrive not > even aware of how complete the journey was, let allow all the > internal instructions needed to drive car.
Yeah, exactly. This is what I was talking about in my post yesterday. That you can get to 'the zone' or whatever you want to call that immersive state through lots of different ways, not just through DJing. > I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only > half the later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph > being the writer's explanation of the concept, therefore > highly suspect... I was never trying to discredit what Hawtin was on about. I was just trying to dilute the importance the author gave to it. I mean the dude uses this fairly banal observation about the creative process as the starting point for his tirade about Berlin being the mecca of the arts, citing loads of crap about Hegel, Kant, Negri, etc. If you're looking at two hundred years of a city's history, you're bound to find loads of important artistic/philospohical contributors, without extending that laundry list of Germans to people who never lived there (like Nietzsche for one). I mean do we really need a reminder of how many important philosophers came from Germany? It's philosophical name-dropping at its worst because the content is never put to use, except for a crappy paragraph on Hegel, who could never be summarized out of context. I just thought it was a tenuous place to begin the exploration of the import of electronic music to art globally, and pretty non-unique to Berlin. He could've just said "Berlin's cool because it's got loads of clubbers who love good music and lots of really good DJs live there", but that's not a very interesting story (albeit true). Am I the only one that thought it was excessively long given that it had hardly any coherent focus? A couple of bits thrown in at the end about the DJs other than Hawtin for what? Because the journalist got time with them too? Sorry... I never meant to rip this thing to shreds, it just seemed like it could've used some more time and insight. Conversely, the dude probably got the thing out on time under tight pressure, whereas my Movement report is not as long, took me two months to write/edit and is only now about to see the light of day. Tristan ======= http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
