I think Techno needs more people like Jeff and Rich, even if you don't agree with what they are saying at least they are interesting and get the scene coverage. There seems to be an undercurrent that seems to say that everyone should be the same or just "a nice bloke". We are all aware of the Techno Elite on forums and lists - very loud voices with nothing to hold up against the people the are running down or player hating - I'm with the statement that those who don't make art shouldn't be allowed to critise it.

Do we really want everyone to be the same?

Cheers
Martin



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To: "Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Metro Times: Detroit




I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only half the
later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph being the writer's
explanation of the concept, therefore highly suspect...

but- i think the premise here is that of primalism (a word used by the
writer later on in the piece). I've often heard DJs talk about not really
thinking about what they're playing- it just pouring out. that's where the
'no ego' thing comes in. i've often seen rich go into those zones where he
just seems possessed. and i've certainly experienced those moments where
you lose all sense of self/group/listener/dj/whatever on the dancefloor. i
think that's the premise here.

which of course doesn't disqualify your theory tristan. in fact, i believe
the moment you describe usually comes right after the moment i'm
describing- when you return to your 'self' and become aware of the
communial nature of the event. so i think you and rich are really just
examing two points on the same highly fuzzy late-night timeline.




It's a fair enough point. I mean, I've been caught up in bullsh*t like that
as much as the next guy - not to say that I think I'm right, just that I
think it's bullsh*t, being fully aware that I am just as likely to be wrong
as the next guy.

And because I think I end up sounding like a twat more than a hippy most of the time, I'll tell you what I think people should be making a big deal of
(if they want to intellectualise about the clubbing experience): the
communal vibe. In my experience, few things encourage as much excitement as when you get people in numbers getting off on the same thing, whether that's
political rallies, a small black church on the east side of Detroit,
sporting events or the rave. It's when community becomes nearly tangible - especially if everyone is witnessing with the same spectatorial vocabulary. It's like a controlled (or sometimes not) hysteria. The numbers don't need
to be massive, but of course if the connection and numbers are there
together, it all goes off in grander fashion. For me, this tends to happen in smaller venues more often than not (but I'm not trying to resurrect that debate), and few things make me happier than either going into myself with the volume up, closing my eyes and feeling nothing but the pleasantness of everything around me, or looking around at my friends when 'The Wipe' comes
on, knowing that we're all equally happy that some bloke in the DJ booth
knows how to make us happy. It's yet another kind of fulfilment when you're
in the position to guide this along, especially when you don't know the
crowd at all, and you're just hoping to God they'll dig your sh*t - it's one of the few things that makes me a humanitarian and an optimist, despite the
troves of evidence to the contrary. And I love both sides of the booth.

So if I were ever going to consider how DJs should big themselves up
(especially if I was trying to claim that ego had nothing to do with it), I
wouldn't be spouting about how my ego is no longer a part of the process.
I'd be spouting about how the barrier between performer and audience is
eradicated when the right crowd is assembled for the right DJ in the right place on the right night - which requires a good crowd, a good venue, a good
owner, a good promoter and a good DJ. None of which happens without the
right people, dedication, planning, fingers on the pulse, ground work,
experience, history, execution and the right wax. When that happens, it's
pure f*cking magic. In my mind, that's what must be happening in Berlin,
because I know that's how good nights happen in London. We might not get the
same kind of international press or have the same people migrating in
droves, but for at least the last few years, all of these ingredients have come together with regularity here, and I bet it's not that much different
in Holland, Tokyo or Berlin.

$.02.

Tristan
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