i find the use of the term 'happy' when used with hardcore a bit wierd here.

wasn't it just 'hardcore'?

i thought the 'happy' came later, along with 160bpm four to the floor instead of breaks

could be wrong tho as what i know as hardcore lost me when i became more interested in house music.

robin...



On 6 May 2005, at 11:37, Dan Bean wrote:

Hardcore and Jungle/D&B share musical elements such as tempo and the use of breaks + there was a fair bit of crossover in terms of producers and DJs. DJs at the time would play sets either mixing the two or have a happy hardcore set and a jungle set (e.g. Kenny Ken). Danny Breaks was one of many producers that crossed over. In fact the Essex jungle peeps (especially the Suburban Base crew) probably had the closest links to hardcore, though not necessarily the happy end of things.

Early jungle comps such as Drum & Bass Selection Vol 1:

http://www.discogs.com/release/97955

illustrate the link quite well. At the time it was marketed as a D&B compilation, but listening back the hardcore element is pretty strong.

Suburban Base's 'The Joint' is probably another good example:

http://www.discogs.com/release/157323

Check the Sonz Of Loop Da Loop Era (Danny Breaks) track for breakbeat madness!

Having said all that, there was definitely a distinction between the stereotypical happy hardcore and D&B fans. The former would be pilled up with their shirts off, jogging on the spot for hours on end, whereas the D&B fans tended to be more into spliffs and punctuate standing around with the occassional burst of frenetic activity. Obviously it was more complicated than that though..



You wrote:
This thread isn't long enough already in my opinion, so I'd like to add that I can't see much relation to happy hardcore and drum 'n' bass, (or
'jungle') although I do see how they evolved from similar origins.


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