Indeed, it's a bit tricky really isn't it? I guess by hardcore I meant to 
include happy hardcore, not quite sure who begat whom though...



You wrote:
> 
> i find the use of the term 'happy' when used with hardcore a bit wierd 
> here.
> 
> wasn't it just 'hardcore'?
> 
> i thought the 'happy' came later, along with 160bpm four to the floor 
> instead of breaks
> 
> could be wrong tho as what i know as hardcore lost me when i became 
> more interested in house music.
> 
> robin...

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