actually, I think robert is using max/msp.
live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and
years.
a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
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From: "Simon Hindle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it --> how do most do it?
I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using
ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600,
nothing else.
Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he
basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a set of
really good, deep, chain reaction-type stuff, and all he used was the
ableton instruments and effects, no plug-ins. All sounds were generated by
operator and he was just tweaking stuff and writing clips on the fly. And
again, all he was using to control everything was a doepfer pocket fader and
the laptop touchpad/keyboard; the much-vaunted monodeck was nowhere in
sight. Mindblowing stuff. Sure, if you recorded the output the sound quality
might not be so amazing that you could release it as a track, but in the
context of a live show it was wicked. First time I've ever seen ableton used
as an instrument, if you know what I mean.
For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie
Lidell. He makes pretty much every sound using his mouth and has a custom
max/msp program that samples and loops his beatboxing/wailing/silly banter,
and then runs that through a mixing desk with some delay and reverb sends,
together with an MPC1000 with some beats on it and a minimoog for extra phat
crunch. And he puts on a proper show. And it's dripping with soul.
You MUST see him if he's playing within 100 miles of you. (further if you
have means of transport beyond walking).
I'd like to see galoppierende zuversicht live as well - they show up with a
bunch of hardware (NO laptops), a fair bit of it home-made, and just jam
away for an hour or so.
"Tristan Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/04/2006 10:09 am >>>
There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live
arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his
other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but
he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences
from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop
now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the
sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where
almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or
Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real
time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to
something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say
this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I
was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and
Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that
he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares.
Tristan
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