Glyph xx xx wrote:
The picture of changes: The art of the demonstration The time of untruth and the space of events Idea of the name and the unconscious of personality System of the body and the energy of age Quality of air and the ignorance of order Process of work and the logic of the number Profession of force and error and mistake Feeling of reality and the habit of communication Closeness of the poles and the image of the archetype Shape of the line and the imprecision of drawing Type of the screen black-white and colour Background of presentation and the repetition of the presentation Abnormality of voice and the script of sound Essence of language and the skill of speaking Point of motion and the genesis of folklore Theory of origin and the origin of theory Cause of effect and the abstraction of the abstractAdmirers of the human brain were disappointed when for the first time a computer beat a human (chess champion Gary Kasparov). But the large and powerful machine can do nothing else - it's programmed to examine millions of possible moves methodically and at great speed, calculating without any 'feeling' for what might be good or exciting. Even the smartest of today's computers are pretty dumb. The machine, the program, explores all the options, all of them exhaustively, without any insight, and then picks the one that's best in that investigation, computers have not yet to demonstrate true artificial intelligence.This experiment will show you have a far superior brain to a computer. All you need is a bag of coloured sweets (such as M & Ms), some coloured pens and pencils, and some coloured beads. Spread all these things out a table so they're mixed into a big pile. Now, pick out all the green objects, followed by red, blue and so on. Then sort the piles into different objects. Pretty easy, wasn't it? If you've got a very young brother or sister who's only three years old, they'd probably be able to do it, too. But the most sophisticated computers have trouble completing this task. There are so many requirements that need to be explained for visual recognition to work with artificial intelligence.Technology affects the way we think about everything from the environment and nuclear weapons to ethnicity, working conditions and immigration, It’s a cultural and historical framework that has profoundly shaped how we live and think of ourselves, our notions of right and wrong, what’s possible and impossible. It affects us in ways we can’t even begin to articulate.I think that when computers manage to make social interaction with humans, they would be like a super pet. That would be one thing that would be very exciting.who really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE????????????To answer that unless a machine thinks: THE MAN, or rather HUMAN.And no, we have no technology in my country but we still make some gorgeous ART, that people still envies us 'till today.From: "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:19:13 In the very same mindset.... -Jimi Hendrix re-wired and re-thought how to record his music so he could get his guitar to sound like the music that was in his head.-Similarly the Detroit boyz took traditional gear and re-wired/re-thought it to develop the early tech soundz that kick-started (more or less) a musicalrevolution. Let's pose this as a question cuz I'm interested in peeps thoughts:A. Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate imagination orhave the opposite effect...or both??B. If both....how then does one gage or distinguish true musicianship andtalent from creativity/imagination/uniqueness in composition?? I know this is a chicken / egg paradoxical type question, but as an older soul I'm finding less imagination in the place of technological brilliance....who really counts more nowadays THE MAN or THE MACHINE???????????? I imagine that facile people will always make relatively facile music and conversely us weirdo complicated folks will forever push the envelope toexpress human ponderings and intricacies in ways that have heretofore neverbeen expressed......... What do you all tink???From: "Rusty Blasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] technology vs. art Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:32:36 -0500 Regarding technology (no matter the level of intricacy), here's what mytrumpet professor told me about musicianship. After listening to me labor painfully through a difficult passage in a piece of music, he would stop me(probably for the sake of his sensitive ears) and make me aware of the trumpet. While holding it up, turning it, and knocking on the bell, the manexplained to me that the trumpet is merely a thing of brass, incapable ofproducing music without assistance (in this case, the air of a human'spursed and buzzing lips). The music is in your head, he stated, pointingto his noggin. If you can't hear it, and performed flawlessly, in your own mind, than you can't expect it to come out of the instrument. Maybe this will offer some much needed elucidation. 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