> > -Race/ Culture and who owns music. Hey i don't get this?, no race culture > owns music, music has no colour.
Music has no colour - would be true, if the music would be as "free and individual" as people try to sell this artform - but music is made by humans (most times - otherwise aliens as martians or alien artform or sun ra :D ) but - humans are having their roots in different culturez and most of the music has it origins in the culturez even all individual outstanding artists do have their sources that were there b4 - and you can hear it when you will take some time to research - one xample for the african roots in music: much modern music and much Detroit techno works with the paradox effect of the syncope - this effect and the meaning of the syncope is a very strong magical and deep effect - (mathematicaly also interesting) the means you have two time lines starting from the same point but still in realtion to each another - two time dimensions running at the same time - you can´t resist when this starts working on you ! it has a religious effect Bach used to have this in his music too but he didn´t develope it to a point that you could compare it with african tribe patterns the complex syncope in the pattern is coming from the culture of african tribes and is working sometimes stronger deeper sometimes less in all modern music "pop, rock, trance ...etc - now there´s much more of those fundamental elements coming from black culture in the modern music - Africa and African tribes do not profit on having worked out various complex patterns with various religious effects and many other elements in music culture, but the sons and daughters of the culture who were slaved and shipped and brought to america, england, jamaica etc... they still have kept some of the basic knowledge of this highest level developed music culture ... and kept on developing it - (blues, gospel, jazz, rocknroll, reggae, so much more was created under stongest influence of this tradition, and was mainly again developed by by black people ...) The "european music culture" used to make "listening music" over many centurys and didn´t take care to innovate and develope the tribal music-culture on a serious level (incl participation (dancing, singing) and communication) so they started to steal the elements of the opressed black cuture, but also rarely understood what was the source) - the thing is that the european culture is full of certain "elitist individualism philosophy and the calculating ego mind" "isolation of the individualz- effect", that does reject the view to the sources I´m not going to tell you that Mozart, Vivaldi, Ravel, Gershwin haven´t done great nice music too with good intensions too they also do have their influences on the music nowadays - but if you step into music culture you will see, that the innovators and basic creators with substance of the music we hear and dance to nowadays have the main ingrediants and roots created in Africa and by the sons and daughters of Africa try to see this in the context of the opression, that is still continuing on a more silent level and then you should understand why you can´t come along with the simple argument - music has no colour - music of many colours - the main ingrediant nowadays has got it´s roots in black culture and the more you see this the more you will wonder how little people want to see and know about it m planetz2002 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
