----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Anya Stang'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: RE: (313) to move or not to move.
> I think you have a point here but sometimes you really have to confront what > you percieve as bulls**t and pretension with strong language. A debate > should be lively and not preceded with endless disclaimers about each > person's respect for the other and their right to hold an opinion - isn't it > dishonest, after all, to say you respect someone elses point of view, when > you quite clearly hold it in contempt? I completely get where you're coming from, but if I'm reading Jeff correctly, I think the reason there were so many disclaimers is precisely to try and avoid as many disagreements as possible through a sometimes-ineffective medium. To talk to him in person these would not be necessary. If you get flamed most times you post, it seems reasonable to hedge your comments. I've been on a dancefloor next to Jeff and I really don't think if you saw him clearly responding to the music without dancing that you would think he wasn't feelin' it, or that he shouldn't be there grooving alongside you and I. I think the other side of this is that you can dance and look like a complete baffoon, even if you're feeling it completely, in a visceral uninhibited way, and maybe bring down the crowd a bit because you look too spastic (self-implication fully intended). I think the argument should be made that some people (me) should maybe dance a little bit less. Hopefully we can all agree that I should sit down and shut up, rather than shut up and dance, and not make another thread out of *that*. Any complaints can be directed off-list please. :) Tristan ===== Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com