Speaking of which....
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Subject: DJ T-1000 rocks Record Time Ferndale
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:47:31 EST
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The Last DJ On Earth returns to Record Time Ferndale !
November 8th 2002
7-9 pm
262 W. Nine Mile Rd
one block west of Woodward
Hor d'oeuvres by La Soups, so come and eat to the beat
All Pure Sonik and Generator products are specially-priced
www.recordtime.com
www.puresonikrecords.net
www.generatormusic.com
FC2 Richards wrote:
what if it was DJ T-1000 commanding everyone to dance...as he usually does.
I think I would obey because he is a bad mother f*ucker!
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Subject: Re: (313) 100 BEST DJ IN THE WORLD (Mills)
Amen Jeff! It always bugs the hell out of me when the
self-elected party revolutionary leader stands up at
the show and starts yelling at people to start dancing.
If he/she needs other people to dance for them to fell
comfortable with dancing themselves, maybe they should
get drunk or something. "Bite me" is what I usually
end up thinking...
On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:
While I respect your opinion and understand that your
comments are made in
the context of this discussion (and also that dance
music is ostensibly
made for dancing), I have to say that I find the
notion
that someone gets
to say how *I* need to react to something else in the
sense that I can be
marginalized when I don't is reductionistic and at
least as problematic as
a person who doesn't respond in the way dictated by
whomever. I don't dance
and I doubt I ever will; perhaps it's childhood trauma
or an ill formed
sense of self - whatever. That doesn't mean I don't
enjoy the music nor
does it mean I have to be saddled with restructuring a
performative context
or bumming out a DJ. It would seem like the fact that
I
haven't left the
venue should say something.
In an age where all kinds of criticism
(literary, etc.) has freed
art from static notions tied with the artist, I find
it
interesting that
the monolithic notion of "must-dancing" still rules. I
do understand the
need for it and I understand how it creates a
necessary
symbiosis - but why
does *everyone* need to be dancing in order for them
to
enjoy and
appreciate something?
We aren't all dancers, we aren't all as comfortable
with dancing as each
other. As a qualifier, I am not saying that any
behavior or reaction to art
is equally appropriate, nor am I saying there is no
tie
between art and
artist. I just find it a bit tyrannical and quixotic
to
dictate behavior to
a set. Again, my comments are not directed to this
particular post (as I
can see the connection you are making vis a vis the
trend), but rather
towards the notion that seems to underlie it : if I
don't dance, I am
unappreciative and some kind of pariah. If it's really
about the music OR
the mix, then I should be left to appreciate it in a
way which is genuine
to myself and doesn't shipwreck someone else's
enjoyment. .02.
jeff
At 08:09 AM 11/4/2002, Toby Frith wrote:
This is somewhat of a double-edged sword I think. In
one respect, people go
to see a DJ like Mills so they can dance. In the
other
respect, they go to
watch his craft, which then takes the DJ out of his
normal context and into
that of an artist, because you are viewing him/her
rather than interacting.
(another argument which I'm not going to pontificate
on here) So you get
one half of the audience dancing and the other just
watching. This has been,
IMHO, the downfall of techno turntablism and the like
in recent years. Too
much watching, not enough dancing.
I went to see Mills in Zurich a year ago and there
was
far too much of the
latter going on. You could see him actually looking
rather annoyed as one
absolute classic after another (Final Frontier,
Magnese) was being dropped
only to see a leaden-footed and mute reaction from
the
crowd. How must a DJ
feel when they are faced by banks of motionless
people
looking at them spin
some records?
TJJ
~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~
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