all i'm saying, and all i've ever said, is that juan atkins was making techno before he heard kraftwerk. why is that so hard to understand?
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, the fact you claim to be true is: Kraftwerk has nothing to do with the > creation of the detroit techno. Right? > > On 02/06/2008, at 14:54, Frank Glazer wrote: > >> it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making >> techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in writing, >> it's a fact. >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in >>> saying >>> something would be this way if... >>> You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced but >>> not >>> as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These 3 cases >>> should lead us to a real debate. The "if" leads nowhere. >>> >>> Kw >>> >>> On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had >>>>> never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed. >>>> >>>> That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit >>>> techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed, because >>>> Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> remember that argument we were all having recently about whether >>>>>> techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that >>>>>> sparked it was "Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some >>>>>> difficulty without the Germans" (this was in the context of who >>>>>> belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville three) >>>>>> >>>>>> well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue of (now >>>>>> defunct) muzik magazine. it was an ongoing feature in which they'd >>>>>> have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite songs for a >>>>>> hypothetical mixtape. juan atkins was featured in this particular "do >>>>>> us a tape" and he said this: >>>>>> >>>>>> "track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers: I froze in my tracks >>>>>> when I heard this. It was on the radio one night and I was like 'what >>>>>> is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally electronic >>>>>> recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used to go to the >>>>>> music store and just play around with the synthesiser. I think it had >>>>>> the same impact on music as the electric guitar did when that was >>>>>> introduced. You could do anything with it - your imagination was the >>>>>> limit." >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> peace, >>>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >> > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
