Juan made techno using synth's (ms10), not drum machines with preset sounds amd easy to programme sequencer. He actually says somewhere that when he heard Kraftwerk he realised that they had the same sounding percussion sounds that he was producing using his synths. Sure you could say that Roland created a mechanical footprint for dance music, but that but Juan actually synthesized the very sounds that would become 'techno'. Sur at the same time as other revolutionaries on planet earth, but not in the same way.
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:54 AM To: Kowalsky Cc: [313] Subject: Re: (313) juan and kraftwerk (was Re: (313) 313 - T) it's not an if. it's a statement of fact. juan atkins was making techno before he heard kraftwerk. he said it, he put it in writing, it's a fact. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank, i'm sorry to disagree with you again, but there is no logic in > saying something would be this way if... > You can say that kraftwerk had no influence, or that they influenced > but not as much as people say or that they did influenced a lot. These > 3 cases should lead us to a real debate. The "if" leads nowhere. > > Kw > > On 02/06/2008, at 14:05, Frank Glazer wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> To play devil's advocate, that doesn't prove that if Kraftwerk had >>> never existed, Detroit techno would not have existed. >> >> That was exactly my point. If you ask me, it proves that Detroit >> techno would have existed even if Kraftwerk had not existed, because >> Juan said he was already doing techno before hearing kraftwerk! >> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> remember that argument we were all having recently about whether >>>> techno would have happened without kraftwerk? the comment that >>>> sparked it was "Juan and Kevin and Derrick might have had had some >>>> difficulty without the Germans" (this was in the context of who >>>> belongs on a techno mount rushmore alongside the belleville three) >>>> >>>> well, i was just reading an article from the march 1999 issue of >>>> (now >>>> defunct) muzik magazine. it was an ongoing feature in which they'd >>>> have a techno personality come up with a list of favorite songs for >>>> a hypothetical mixtape. juan atkins was featured in this >>>> particular "do us a tape" and he said this: >>>> >>>> "track 9: kraftwerk - numbers - warner brothers: I froze in my >>>> tracks when I heard this. It was on the radio one night and I was >>>> like 'what is this?' **I was making music already, doing totally >>>> electronic recordings and the similarities freaked me out.** I used >>>> to go to the music store and just play around with the synthesiser. >>>> I think it had the same impact on music as the electric guitar did >>>> when that was introduced. You could do anything with it - your >>>> imagination was the limit." >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> peace, >> >> frank >> >> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >> > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1477 - Release Date: 6/1/2008 5:28 PM
