Hi Brian, You did not answer the question regarding whether 4D will continue to work with 4D Write (the regular version, not the Pro). That's my primary concern at the moment.
Since my rep told me that it would continue to work at the last developer event in San Jose, I don't understand why I would be getting a "Goodbye" email at this point. Was he wrong? Did I understand him incorrectly? This product is based on the functionality and capability of 4D Write, as painful as it was to write those lines of code. With regard to Pro, last I looked it had a ruler which blocks a much larger amount of the writing area (*thick* vertically), making the writing area too small on detailed forms. The existing 4D Write menus and toolbar use about 2.5 cm on the form, leaving about 8.5 cm of useful area (before zoom) for composing. The example you linked to, of a 4D Write Pro toolbar and menu combination, is about twice as thick. I think I have seen that example before. How would someone be able to use a word processing area over half of which is taken over by those thick elements? Fold in: - the apparent absence of the rich command set available in 4D Write, particularly commands involving procedural generation of forms and style sheets; - the absence of control for placing graphics on forms; - the absence of Word-compatible style sheets; - the absence of a Word export; ...what is left that's of any utility? Given how intuitive the existing 4D Write interface is for the average, word-processing-type user, why would 4D abandon that? Why do the 4D developers, rather than the developers of 4D, need to spend hours trying to reproduce a detailed, compact interface that was already in the product? Please find some answers if you can. A negative answer to the first one would make a product that I have spent most of my time working on since early 2015 become useless in new versions of 4d. These are all Windows users, so I have no interest in 64-bit stuff. Thank you for responding, Don >Hi Don, > >If you haven't already, please add your concern about "Export to MS >Word" to the 4D Forum where the Product team can see it and respond. >Here is a feature request you can up-vote: > >http://forums.4d.com/Post/EN/20813501/1/20814772#20814772 > >Among the posts linked in the email today is one that gives example code >to build a toolbar similar to the one in 4D Write: > >https://blog.4d.com/4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro/ > >We are working to make sure you and the 4D community are aware of the >resources already available by bundling 4D Write Pro related info together. > >my very best > >-Brian > > > > >Brian Young >Technical Marketing Manager >Telephone : +1-408-557-4626 >Email : byo...@4d.com >Web : www.4D.com >4D inc >95 S. Market Street, Suite #240 >95113 San Jose - United States >Standard : +1-408-557-4600 >Fax : +1-408-271-5080 > >On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Don Lapin via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists. >4d.com> wrote: > >Did anyone else get this "Goodbye 4D Write" email today? > >I was told by my rep that 4D Write would continue to work with future >versions of the program. I have over 200 customers on a 4D Write-based >application. Thousands of lines of code that procedurally assemble long >OSHA, Canadian, and EU chemical compliance-related documents. Complete >with Word-compatible style sheets and the export directly into the Word >(.doc) format. It's one of our biggest selling points compared to the >competition. > >When I last looked at their so-called "Pro" version, it had a tiny >fraction of the capability of 4D Write, and a clunky, witless widget >interface that won't even fit on my forms. No Word export. After all >time that they have taken to make a replacement, they came up with this. > >Am I not up to speed with progress on the "pro" version? Does it have a >normal interface again? Can it procedurally assemble documents with Word >style sheets and a Word export? > >Please let me know if you know more, or if I am mistaken. > >Thanks, >Don > > > >********************************************************************** >4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com >********************************************************************** > > ********************************************************************** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **********************************************************************
