Thanks Pat. That makes sense and explains the approach of assigning plug in access with user groups. And it's a push to sell more licenses.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 2:31 PM Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Kirk, > As I understand it - and no doubt somebody will correct me if I'm wrong :) > - a plugin licence is assigned to a user when they log in, and they keep > that licence until they log out. They are assigned in the order people log > in. So, say you have a 10-user system but you have only 4 WP licences. The > first 4 people to log in will get those WP licences. The next 6 people who > log in won't get one, unless one of the original 4 logs off, in which case > if one of the unlucky 6 needs the licence they would have to log out and > log back in again in order to grab the newly released licence. > > So if you have 4 user licences and everybody needs access to WP and you > also have stored procedures running that require a licence, I reckon you > will need 5 WP licences. > > Pat > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 18:10, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > Thank Pat, > > That's what I thought. > > > > Since you are very familiar with using Write Pro - I assume licenses > > 'consumed' when a user invokes a method or opens a a form that requires > > one. Is that license 'released' as soon as it's no longer being used? > > > > Obviously I'm trying to understand how many licenses are required in a > > database that would make specific use of Write Pro. I understand about > > setting group access to plugins. That's not how I want to manage this, > > though. > > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 8:09 AM Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech < > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hmmm Rudy, I would suggest that if the server (or any stored process) > > > needed to use a WP licence, even for a second, then you WOULD need to > > > reserver a licence for it. Otherwise you would easily run into a > > situation > > > where all available licences have been used by connected users, and > then > > it > > > wouldn't have access to one ... > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 23:29, Two Way Communications bvba POP via > > 4D_Tech < > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Kirk, > > > > > > > > My guess is that, as long as the ‘Designer’ user belongs to a group > > that > > > > is linked to 4D Write plugin, the 4D Write PRO code will work in the > > > stored > > > > method. > > > > > > > > It will temporarily use up 1 of the licenses available, but only for > a > > > > short time. > > > > > > > > As such, you do not really need to ‘reserve’ a license. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rudy Mortier > > > > Two Way Communications bvba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 Jan 2019, at 17:32, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < > > > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Does 4D Server require a 4D Write Pro license for non-UI methods? > > > > > > > > > > Let's say I have a database with 10 4D Write Pro licenses. I may > have > > > > more > > > > > than 10 users and understand how to check and manage licenses > > available > > > > for > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > My question is if I have to 'reserve' a license for the server to > be > > > able > > > > > to run methods that call a 4D Write Pro method? 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