I will add (others can fell free to differ)

I have done a (very) small amount of work with/learning React (about 3 months).
It is (to me) a VERY steep learning curve, and unless you NEED, I feel that 
simple Javascript is going to be a better friend.

Chip


> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have asked a similar question over on the FORUM, and got two responses. I 
> know more people than two have developed web pages and 4D applications 
> working together.
> 
> I really need to get into designing both. 
> 
> - The advantage I have is that I am starting from scratch with web 
> development and 4D and the web. The 4D database linked over the web that I 
> personally developed with HTML back in the early 90s are way out of date. I 
> want to learn the new way of working, because that will future proof my 
> skills, and the sites/Applications I develop. 
> 
> - The disadvantage I have is that I am starting from scratch.
> 
> OK, having said that what tools do you recommend (and why)? There are so many 
> web development tools, and so many web developers that want to gobble up the 
> Database application behind it all (thus my work) as they ‘can do it all’. 
> 
> - I have seen talk about Angular, AngularJS, React ( Frameworks - correct).
> - There are new tools in 4D since back in the early 90s obviously. 
> - Yes, REST is important, but what does that mean.
> 
> A white paper from 4D on 4D v19 and the web and working together would be 
> very nice to have.
> 
> The web sites I developed way back then, everything was in 4D. I wrote all 
> the static HTML and stored, and sent it out from 4D. That was then, but from 
> what I understand now things can work better as the WebServer itself can 
> interpret the JavaScript to execute code there - thus being faster. Of course 
> scalability is important to. No use using a tool that cannot scale. I 
> remember the first time I installed at a site with 150 concurrent users, and 
> a 20 x 300 foot chart room that would be put into our system along with all 
> new data. That scared me, but 4D 2004 did it.
> 
> Any comments, thoughts, warnings, or drop by and say hello are all 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jody Bevan
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