Hi Pascal,

On Oct 13, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
In route over, the only address(es) that the node uses at the moment is that of its router(s). The address is found in the RA source MAC and the
neighbor relationship is maintain using NR/NC messages. The draft does
not attempt to shortcut for P2P - then again the model is very similar
to 802.11 infra mode. There's discussion at RPL about line of sight P2P,
though, and it appears that we could add something like multicast
NA(override) when the address is obtained (and renewed).

I'm mostly interested in route-over, so I'll limit my discussion to that. 1-hop P2P is something we should support - there are scenarios where two nearby nodes may want to communicate without any additional infrastructure.

I think a bit of my concern is the lack of clarity in the role that 6lowpan-nd plays in the router-router interface as well. For example, what is the address resolution mechanism when communicating with next- hop nodes - is it NR/NC? NS/NA? Something specific to the routing protocol?

Address resolution is not used/needed/required when there is a router
between a node and its target. ICMP unreachable is your friend there.
Since the draft always goes through the router, only the router needs
actual (un)reachability testing.
The draft uses NR/NC messages to cover the node to router hop and ICMP
unreachable for all other destinations.

NR/NC only cover link-local addresses. As defined, the router can only verify reachability to a host using its link-local address. How does it test global addresses? Does it just trust that the host has assigned the address to its interface when sending NR messages to renew the binding?

Also, same thing here on whether or not 6lowpan-nd plays any role on the router-router interface. As defined today, clearly it plays some role because routers need to perform DAD. But what about NUD? Address resolution? We discussed how NR/NC messages may be helpful for certain routing protocol operations, but do they really replace the need for NS/NA?

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Jonathan Hui


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