On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Uriel wrote:

On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jeff Sickel <j...@corpus- callosum.com> wrote:
Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new
driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work,

I'm no VMWare fan and their policy for releasing documentation used to
be beyond idiotic, but please lets stop spreading this nonsense about
NDAs?

From: http://www.vmware.com/resources/opensource/projects.html

"The video driver was one of the first pieces of software ever
released as open source by VMware - back in 2002"

And video is quite damned fast if you disable acceleration, certainly
much better than vesa on most modern video cards.

Not with VMware Fusion it isn't. Mostly because you get a bunch of garbage being drawn/hidden when trying to get Plan 9's video drivers working. So it's mostly useless.

I've got a great idea Uriel: why don't you take that open sourced XORG video driver and get it working for Plan 9. Though if I were a betting man, I'd say you'll find that that free code from VMware won't quite do what is needed on their Fusion product--it's a different beast from their versions for Linux and Windows.

As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much
better alternatives..

I disagree. With drawterm I get copy/paste via snarf between my host OS and my Plan 9 instance running in the vm . And as a bonus, it helps distribute everything quite well: great access through /mnt/term etc.

9vx on OSX is very slow with anything that hits the native filesystem-- which ends up being almost everything I use it for: acme, sam, man, 8c, ...

Inferno still has a few issues that still make it a little less than optimal for use when connecting to my Plan 9 cpu servers. Maybe once a cleaned up wm is in place so that I can do what drawterm does well: resizable window and good toggle between full screen.

Until then, drawterm is still the best program to use when I want to do something on Plan 9 and I'm not sitting at a native terminal.

-jas

p.s. to appease erik's tendencies to get good quotes going, here's a little one from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

"We'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent life forms everywhere ... and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys."


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