Hello, On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 09:17:46AM +0700, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > [[resent from my subscribed email address after the mailing list rejected the > original]] > > [...] > AFAICT, without rewriting the entire GNU build system from the ground > up (and there is far too much momentum behind it to ever gain enough > traction to switch the GNU eco-system to an entirely new and different > build system anyway) the following precepts are immutable:
It took me less time to write R.I.S.K. (the building framework used for KerGIS and KerTeX)---and R.I.S.K. does shared libraries if supported and desired---from scratch than to try to understand auto* and libtool. Furthermore, the auto* and libtool were typically made for trying to do something "working" to some extend with a chaotic source. They typically manage to compile "things" written by programmers who have been encouraged to look at the finger ignoring the moon: to concentrate on the "GNU" tools and "GNU" libraries etc, and not on C89 (or C99), POSIX etc. Furthermore, the tools were not written with cross-compilation in mind: compiling and testing a program to run it for obtaining an information is making the assumption that MATRIX == TARGET. Cross-compilation allows you to build with some assumptions and some warranties (on the MATRIX) for a TARGET that has perhaps not, by itself, all the utilities you are assuming. The main problem is indeed "philosophy": encourage the bazaar even in the code. I personnally don't buy that. And the acronym "GNU is Not Unix" is a sophism since GNU will be strictly nothing without Unices, especially open source ones. But since GNU is not Unix, there are imbeciles that insist that a real GNU system must not conform to POSIX, because it is a Unix thing, neither to a C standard ([scornful]: if you really want this my dear, try "-pedantic"...). The GNU way, with the auto* and libtool is demonstrated with GPL GRASS and GPL TeXLive. And I have made the demonstration of the power of organized against bazaar by reworking the two monstruous things _alone_ so that they are maintainable, that is able to be "hold in on hand". Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com> http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
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