i read the paper.

i can believe there are still bugs, truth be told there are bugs in most 
software. all i can say is in my experience i have not hit any since the 
ephemeral snapshot fix. Honestly fosdil has been solid for me; i hope i have 
not just jinx’ed it :-)

-Steve


> On 15 May 2024, at 11:18 pm, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> noam said there's also some well-known issues with locks that still
> keeps happening in fossil. did you watch the outcome of last iwp9? he
> has the best description of the state of venti and fossil to date.
> 
>> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:08 AM Steve Simon <st...@quintile.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just a little first hand experience - I have run a fossil and venti server 
>> for twenty years now.
>> 
>> Fossil suffered three problems in my opinion:
>> 
>> Firstly it was not well publicised that fossil was never designed to cope 
>> with overflow; the sad truth is it fails catastrophically, as whitenessed by 
>> Brucee. it should cope better really, but when used as a write buffer for 
>> venti this is unlikely, it has never happened to me.
>> 
>> Secondly it had a race condition in the ephemeral snapshot code. the only 
>> way to make fossil reliable was to turn these off. This bug was fixed by 
>> Charles (i think, though perhaps it was Richard) about 10 years ago and with 
>> the fix my server has been taking ephemeral snapshots ever since.
>> 
>> Thirdly venti and fossil are slow.
>> 
>> I think its sad (an emotion, sorry) that fossil sources where deleted from 
>> 9front but i do understand the principal of not distributing things the 
>> community does not wish to support.
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 

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