I want to make it very clear that I do not use AI nor will I endorse it. The current crop of LLM vendors are all monied interests looking to devalue workers in order to capture their income. It's theft of human energy and creativity for profit.
The people filing you with anxiety by claiming you're going to be left behind are just marketing for the AI vendors. That's called FOMO - fear of missing out. I have no problem being left behind, and don't feel that I am missing anything other then a world filled with layers of junk code. It actually sounds rather pleasant being left behind as that will mean being left alone and spared all the silly noise surrounding AI. As I stated in my talk at IWP9 2024, Plan 9 is a human scale OS so I see no need to pollute it with code purchased from an LLM vendor. It's a pretty good grift when a vendor can dupe otherwise intelligent people into parting with their money to both compromise their ethics and their mental abilities. Think for yourself. I have no respect for people who do otherwise. This year's IWP9 2026 was a massive disappointment as we endured one slop filled presentation after another. Questions answered with "that's what the LLM handed me." I might as well have stayed home and went to the local casino and threw my money into a different kind of stochastic system. 9front eschewing computer generated code is a step in the right direction. I really want to see more people and projects adopt this stance. I even request that future IWP9 presentations severely limit generative AI use with the board demanding full disclosure of LLM use by submitters and rejecting presenters who put little to no effort into the work other than asking an AI vendor to do the work for them. taw On Mon, May 18, 2026, 12:34 PM Aleksandar Kuktin <[email protected]> wrote: > >On Mon, 18 May 2026 21:29:16 +0900 > >[email protected] wrote: > > If we reach that point, what meaningful agency would remain for the > > user in operating a computer, and would that level of constrained > > control still justify calling it a general-purpose system? > > Formally speaking, that point has been crossed in an absolute sense > sometime around 1990, with the introduction of SMM in 386 and 486 CPUs. > Since the rise of ARM as a major computing platform (ARM always > includes some sort of a "trusted" execution environment), coupled with > IME and it's twin on AMD chips, the point has basically been crossed in > all meaningful ways. > > What's to be done? Well, excepting use of ancient 386 CPUs or building > general-purpose computers with overgrown Z80's, we do have these things > called FPGA chips. Some of them are monsters that have as many logic > gates as the early SoC's from 2010's and can push those gates at or > over 1GHz. There are also more modest FPGAs, and among these you can > find quite a few models that can be used to build a FOSH computer. > Until foundry access becomes democratized, this is the way to go if you > want CONTROL over your computing. > > https://github.com/YosysHQ/nextpnr > > (The relevance of all this to 9fans is that Plan 9 is sufficiently > simple that it might be the best previously-existing OS to port to > these to-be-made FOSH computers. Which reminds me, I need to look into > the Plan 9 VM.) > > -- > Svi moji e-mailovi su kriptografski potpisani. Proverite ih. > All of my e-mails are cryptographically signed. Verify them. > -- > You don't need an AI for a robot uprising. > Humans will do just fine. > -- ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T073a994fa2fd80d1-M4eac7210df8ae2c78b640362 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
