I think it will be hard to make them good. Will they leave BCD support in there, or will DAA finally stop occupying 1/256 of the basic instruction set? Does anyone know what instructions are dropped? I guess I'll ask Christian.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2026 at 9:56 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > The question then is: even if the compatibility stuff is removed, how > much the history and the compatibility dead weigth has polluted the > design of both hardware and software 64bits architecture? I.e. this > will help (for manufacturing or for the assembly/compilers) but doesn't, > by itself, make the 64bits parts good. > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2026 at 12:48:28PM -0700, Ron Minnich wrote: > > When Intel presented the EM64T (aka x86_64) to a DOE group in 2004, my > > first question was: "can't we strip all this compatibilty stuff out > > and just have a 64-bit CPU?" > > > > The answer was: "we have that, it's called itanium" -- they would not > > be moved on that point. > > > > It took 20 years, but at least it's happening :-) > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 11:18?AM Aleksandar Kuktin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 12:04:28 -0600 > > > >ron minnich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Or do what I've done and do your best to abandon x86. I don't miss > > > > it :-) > > > > > > > > These will be breaking changes to some extent, though due to the > clean > > > > compact nature of our assembly startup, not too bad I think. > > > > > > > > > https://inbox.sourceware.org/binutils/caksqd8xjvf3jq8boojcoe_gzcnvcqmuhew-whbw3ugnve2i...@mail.gmail.com/ > > > > > > Am I allowed to make a guess? Moore's law is FINALLY dead, so they're > > > starting to undo the last 50 years of bloat and bad design, in order > > > to keep getting better performance. > > > > > > -- > > > Svi moji e-mailovi su kriptografski potpisani. Proverite ih. > > > All of my e-mails are cryptographically signed. Verify them. > > > -- > > > You don't need an AI for a robot uprising. > > > Humans will do just fine. > > > -- > > -- > Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ kergis +dot+ com> > http://www.kergis.com/ > http://kertex.kergis.com/ > Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T8772783ed6f31a87-M2ee463b6df95fb94210bc2c6 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription
