On 2/4/13 11:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
>
> On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
>> Partially.
>>
>> So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are
>> handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion
>> point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about clipboard
>> functionality?
> I'll have to dig through a month's worth of discussion on the list
> back in June 2011. I'll try to get to that at some point during the
> week. If you have time to look at it sooner look through the thread
> with subject, "next changes to IAccessible2" here:
> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2011-June/thread.html
There are a lot of topics in that thread and I'll try to separate out
and summarize the clipboard discussion later, but there is also a
following discussion which starts here:
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2011-July/001495.html
and one more post here:
http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2012-February/001561.html
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:18 PM, "Pete Brunet" <p...@a11ysoft.com
>> <mailto:p...@a11ysoft.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2/4/13 4:56 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
>>>> Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed?
>>> If you have a contact at Nuance please ask them to join the list.
>>>
>>> Only the clipboard methods are deprecated, which bascially means
>>> don't use the cut/copy/paste methods until the IA2 spec can be
>>> changed to support the varying implementations and ambiguities of
>>> clipboard functionality. The rest of the methods are not
>>> deprecated, i.e. deleteText, insertText, replaceText, and
>>> setAttributes. Does that clarification help at all?
>>>>
>>>> Even if Nuance has not implemented it for say FF has someone
>>>> approached them? We can' t just be supporting vision impairments.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:35 PM, "Pete Brunet" <p...@a11ysoft.com
>>>> <mailto:p...@a11ysoft.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rich, At this point, since we couldn't find consensus and since
>>>>> this release was supposed to done last Fall and since I was
>>>>> informed that noone has implemented or shown a need for the three
>>>>> clipboard operations, I'm inclined to not hold up the release any
>>>>> further and handle this in a follow-on release if a project comes
>>>>> along that needs clipboard functionality and provides resource to
>>>>> drive the spec toward a well thought out definition of the
>>>>> clipboard methods.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/4/13 8:51 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Pete,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason for the editing functions was to allow a voice reco
>>>>>> solution to select text, edit it, and perform clipboard
>>>>>> operations for the mobility impaired. It is additional work to
>>>>>> have a voice reco solution have to go through the additional work
>>>>>> of doing the additional keyboard simulations for doing that
>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, these are single actions. AccessibleEditableText also allows
>>>>>> you to replace text, and set attributes, which takes offsets and
>>>>>> replacement text/attributes. Accessible actions are single action
>>>>>> functions that don't take parameters. ReplaceText is not the same
>>>>>> as pasting from the clipboard. It is really nice to have all the
>>>>>> features in the same interface. Note: One could bind the single
>>>>>> command functions (cut, copy, paste) to the same actions in
>>>>>> accessible actions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other problem you have with actions is where do you apply it.
>>>>>> Do you know to apply it only to the document. If Editable text is
>>>>>> applied to text content within the document then you should now
>>>>>> where to find the interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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