On 2/4/13 11:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote: > > On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: >> Partially. >> >> So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are >> handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion >> point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about clipboard >> functionality? > I'll have to dig through a month's worth of discussion on the list > back in June 2011. I'll try to get to that at some point during the > week. If you have time to look at it sooner look through the thread > with subject, "next changes to IAccessible2" here: > http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2011-June/thread.html There are a lot of topics in that thread and I'll try to separate out and summarize the clipboard discussion later, but there is also a following discussion which starts here: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2011-July/001495.html and one more post here: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2012-February/001561.html >> >> Rich >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:18 PM, "Pete Brunet" <p...@a11ysoft.com >> <mailto:p...@a11ysoft.com>> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2/4/13 4:56 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: >>>> Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed? >>> If you have a contact at Nuance please ask them to join the list. >>> >>> Only the clipboard methods are deprecated, which bascially means >>> don't use the cut/copy/paste methods until the IA2 spec can be >>> changed to support the varying implementations and ambiguities of >>> clipboard functionality. The rest of the methods are not >>> deprecated, i.e. deleteText, insertText, replaceText, and >>> setAttributes. Does that clarification help at all? >>>> >>>> Even if Nuance has not implemented it for say FF has someone >>>> approached them? We can' t just be supporting vision impairments. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:35 PM, "Pete Brunet" <p...@a11ysoft.com >>>> <mailto:p...@a11ysoft.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Rich, At this point, since we couldn't find consensus and since >>>>> this release was supposed to done last Fall and since I was >>>>> informed that noone has implemented or shown a need for the three >>>>> clipboard operations, I'm inclined to not hold up the release any >>>>> further and handle this in a follow-on release if a project comes >>>>> along that needs clipboard functionality and provides resource to >>>>> drive the spec toward a well thought out definition of the >>>>> clipboard methods. >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> On 2/4/13 8:51 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: >>>>>> Hi Pete, >>>>>> >>>>>> The reason for the editing functions was to allow a voice reco >>>>>> solution to select text, edit it, and perform clipboard >>>>>> operations for the mobility impaired. It is additional work to >>>>>> have a voice reco solution have to go through the additional work >>>>>> of doing the additional keyboard simulations for doing that >>>>>> function. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, these are single actions. AccessibleEditableText also allows >>>>>> you to replace text, and set attributes, which takes offsets and >>>>>> replacement text/attributes. Accessible actions are single action >>>>>> functions that don't take parameters. ReplaceText is not the same >>>>>> as pasting from the clipboard. It is really nice to have all the >>>>>> features in the same interface. Note: One could bind the single >>>>>> command functions (cut, copy, paste) to the same actions in >>>>>> accessible actions. >>>>>> >>>>>> The other problem you have with actions is where do you apply it. >>>>>> Do you know to apply it only to the document. If Editable text is >>>>>> applied to text content within the document then you should now >>>>>> where to find the interface. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Pete Brunet* >>> >>> a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development >>> (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) >>> Skype: pete.brunet >>> IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) >>> http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ >>> Ionosphere: WS4G > > -- > *Pete Brunet* > > a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development > (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) > Skype: pete.brunet > IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) > http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ > Ionosphere: WS4G > > > _______________________________________________ > Accessibility-ia2 mailing list > Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
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